turbo question

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Prostate is a god

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Prostate is a god

 

[Prozon]

F1 racing= Ebay!!
You can find used ebay kits on craigslist a dime a dozen my man.
Trust me i've been in this for over 10 years, don't get me twisted for some kid that knows nothing.

It was a joke stating I wasn't buying the kit from eBay. Your a little slow huh ? If one knows that eBay products are usually inferior, why would you buy USED eBay products? Your just a fountain of intelligence aren't you?

Take note to what Jeff says " I really feel with a larger turbo (GT30r or GT35R) the stock sleeve d-series can handle 550whp without any issues. In the future i plan on building something similar for a cheap 10 second track car for the shop"

We're not talking about D-series now are we? I don't know why you keep bringing it up. A D-series is a whole different ball game. I wonder what his definition of "cheap" is.

Cmon son, your dealing with a jedi master when it comes to this shit lol. Not trying to start a pissing match with you, just simply showing you that your wrong!

It's kind of funny that someone who thinks they are older and smarter is calling them self a Jedi Master..
'Just sayin..

PS my buddies stock sleeve y8 made 427whp on pump/meth. Ran just fine until his gt3076 decided to shit oil out of it after 1500 miles. He then parted the car out.

Another buddies BEP s362 lasted 450miles before the seals went out.

So again anything can fail

I think you need to look up the definition of reliable! Your buddies probably should have made sure their engines were healthy enough to put a turbo on. It's a pretty important factor in all of this.

No matter how built something is, nothing is fail proof.

I'm pretty sure the term is "fool proof." and i'm also sure that the reason someone "builds" something is so that it doesn't fail.

I was pointing out the fact that he is confident a stock D series sleeve will handle 550whp, nothing about the turbo size.

Once again, we're talking about Integras, and the B-series engine that power them.


Nobody here is disagreeing that you need a good tune no matter what set up you are running, i'm arguing with you that it wouldn't be as reliable to run 700hp on a stock B18. I never ONCE said it COULD NOT BE DONE. I said it WOULD NOT BE RELIABLE. You have given me several examples that make me think that you do not know what the term "reliable" means.

Another thing though, that 700hp motor is not stock. The internals were all upgraded as well as the valvetrain, intake, the head, ect. So that means that 1.) He didn't make 700hp on a stock motor. 2.) Your once again not giving any examples that you can make lots of power on a stock motor and be reliable.

And i'm not even going to quote the second link you posted, because reading it right away you can tell ITS NOT STOCK EITHER. Upgraded internals = NOT STOCK.

The third link is also not a B-series, no point going into that, because we're not TALKING ABOUT THOSE.


So how do we say this, do your homework and stop being so ignorant? Your not a Jedi-master and chances are your not as smart as you think you are.

 

[Tam4511]

And wtf are you talking about with the big turbo=slow spool? That was not the point i was making, I was pointing out the fact that he is confident a stock D series sleeve will handle 550whp, nothing about the turbo size.

I really feel with a larger turbo (GT30r or GT35R) the stock sleeve d-series can handle 550whp without any issues.l

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[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Prostate is a god

 

[Tam4511]

i guess i got confused lol, my bad

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Prostate is a god

 

[Prozon]

Where did you get the idea we were talking about sleeves? Sleeves are the last thing on my mind when I talk about engine building.

Should I go further into my build plans? Low comp pistons, eagle rods, arp head studs/rod bolts. Lowering 2", not sure on the brand yet. One piece head lights, new tail lights, new pedals (because mine are trashed.) I'm doing some dent repair and giving the car a new paint job. Seeing as how my knowledge of Integra's started the day I joined these forums, and it was a "totalled" car when I got it, I have to say i'm doing pretty well for myself.

And yes, I am running an eBay turbo. Godspeed if you're curious. The manifold and other parts of the turbo kit aren't eBay though. I never once said anything bad about eBay set ups, simply I wanted you to give me a link and that the general consensus is that they are unreliable. I am someone who generally votes for an eBay turbo, as long as you know what you're doing.

Is there a point I made that was not factual? You seem to think you were right, when I called you on everything you mentioned you didn't have much of a rebuttal.. You said you could put 700hp on a stock motor, but both the examples you gave of that show you can't. If anything you could have said. "You can run 700hp on stock sleeves, but what you said was not correct, and you did not give proof of what you said. So continue genius.. give me some proof of what you say and I might go along with it.

Basically all you have said is "I'm right because I say i'm right."

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Prostate is a god

 

[Prozon]

You haven't proven anything, you tried to show me up then changed your story and said you were only talking about the sleeves, which really makes no sense because you said, and I quote:

There is no realy "limit" as to what any motor can handle.

By "limit" I meant there is no set standard. Some motors will support 200whp and blow up, others will support 600whp with bone stock bottom ends.

And both of your examples are both running forged rods and pistons.. that's TOTALLY stock, you are some kind of mechanical genius huh?

If you think you're right, feel free to PM me or start a new thread for it in the lounge.
Although.. you have successfully made yourself look like a jackass.


Can a motor make that much power? Yeah. Will it be reliable being stock? No, probably not.
Good luck finding a 600hp STOCK motor.

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Prostate is a god

 

[Prozon]

Haha you win!! Again you know more then me, I mean just look at the quality of your car vs the quality of mine, its so fucking apparent that your a god. Go read some honda-tuning magazines, some internet forum and pretend to know everything when in fact your a fucking ricer with very minimal knowledge. Your car is jank as fuck and packed full of nothig but the parts your talking shit about, ebay goodies!! Which I find quite funny considering your talking about how unreliable these very parts are in this very thread. I could go on about your future engine build but id rather save that for another thread. I sure as fuck hope your not shooting for more then 400hp with those china made Eagle rods, again whole different thread entirely. Have a nice day and please come back with some "uber mad tyte rebutal" towards me, I know nothing says badass like internet shit talking.

Do you not see "limit" in quotations? That signifies to me that there is no set standard, maybe you just can't read internet language, so i'll excuse that. Anyways "genius" heres a link to a bone stock and i do mean bone stock bottom end b16 making 600whp.

20 seconds of searching on Honda-Tech:
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2840863&highlight=600hp+b16

Shh!!!

By internet language do you mean bad grammar? Your right. I do have trouble reading that, maybe you should learn to type a coherent sentence. You seem to be doing a lot of "internet shit talking." Is it because you think you're so smart and the first person you tried to be an ass to proved you wrong? You are one cool E-Badass. :roll:

My car currently has no eBay parts on it. It's funny that you are now saying they are "jank as fuck." when just a minute ago you were saying they were reliable. The only eBay parts I will be running are the turbocharger and clutch. Both of which I have read great reviews and know someone personally who is running them. (Not the specific Integra clutch, but I know of someone running an F1 clutch in his truck.)

It's nice that you were so offended by being wrong you decide to bash my car. I'm sorry I started a project and my mommy and daddy didn't buy me a car. Haha. The car was considered totaled and I am the ninth owner. I have plenty of knowledge to get the car restored to it's former glory. It may look pretty bad now, but I've owned it for less then six months and have done a considerable amount of repairs to it, probably all of which are way over your head.

And if you would pull your head out of your ass you would see I take pride in owning a rice burner. I just wish my piece o shit rice burner was as cool as yours. :roll:

As for that link, that shows nothing about the reliability of it. It's been running for less then three months. That's no time to tell if it's reliable. Not to mention people in that thread also stating how that engine is likely to blow up. It seems the Honda community has a general idea of what this set standard is, maybe you should read some of these links you throw my way.

Your turn. :roll:

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Pm'd sweetheart

 

[Prozon]

Let's continue this on the open forum. No need to hide this. I think it's beyond taking it to a PM.
Everyone should get a good laugh too!
Taking personal shots at me and my car was a nice touch too.

I think you feel your talking to kid, let me fill you in a few things. I am a 26 year old man, nothing has ever been paid for by my mommy and daddy. If you wanna get more in depth, not a single fucking part on my Integra has been paid for with a credit card either. Everything has been paid for in cold hard cash.

Do you really think that me, or anyone else cares how you pay for a car? If you are a 26 year old man, you sure do not act like one.

I have more fucking money in bolts for my car then you do for that half ass looking Integra. All work aside from machining has been done by me! Take a look at my build thred in my link and please try to find something to talk shit about. Your in for a rude fucking awakening my friend. But that just makes me look like an internet tough guy, which i am far from, I am in fact one in real life. I am however one of the nicest, most helpful, mechanically inclined people you will ever come across.

Yes, I can tell, your quite nice! And did you really just say "I'm not an internet tough guy, I am a real tough guy."?
By the way, i'm pretty sure you got ripped off on those bolts lol.
Are you implying your going to beat me up? :roll:

1st message was too long, having to break it up in several pm's

I didn't call ebay parts jank, I called your car jank. I also noted that its quite funny your talking shit about them being reliable yet your putting them on your car. Especially the fucking ebay brand clutch, trust me, it will shit out on you faster then you can blink. I even showed you visual proof from my ebay turbo project. The same project that I built just to prove people like you wrong. By all means do as you wish, its your fucking car and from the looks of things you don't have the money or knowledge to build a real car anyways. Be happy with your pos and call it a day.

You got butt hurt cause I simply stated that stock motors can handle boost and will make good power with ebay kits. You for some reason feel you need to look cool on a forum full of people you'll never meet in real life, by arguing over and over. Your definition of stock internals and mine must be 2 completely different things, which I clearly stated as well. To me when I think "stock block" I think "stock sleeves". No one gives a fuck about what pisons are inside the damn motor, whens the last time you ever heard of a stock piston going back without some sort of detonation or item passing through the motor? Thats right, never! In fact forged internals will fail if the same things happen to them.

Yes, you have a different definition of the word internal. Look that one up while your learning a few other definitions. I don't know about you, but pistons are a pretty crucial to any build whether it is N/A or Turbo.

Now lets get to rods, you for some reason seem to think stock rods won't support power? There are several LS motors making 400whp on stock rods. The same stock rods that people like you claim to be the weakest of all B series. There goes that argument! Speaking of rods, I find your choice in Eagle rods to be quite funny. Most people run those on 1. NA setups or 2. Low hp setups because they are shit quality. Would you like me to provide you with a picture of an Eagle rod I pulled out of a 450hp GSR? It was twisted to fuck and back.

People build for peace of mind because they have been told by several people such as yourself that their stock "internals" wont last pass 300whp. I built mine because I am going for over 700whp and plan on spinning the damn thing to 10k rpms. If i wanted sub 400hp I would've stuck with a stock motor and maybe some cams.

Now come back with something clever!

Now you keep pulling up things I never said. I never mentioned anything about the rods. You really shouldn't really say "People like you think this." You do not know me, and you apparently don't even know people like me. And yes, you must be right. Eagle rods must be junk because you can pull up one picture of a bad rod. Should I pull up A LOT of pictures of A LOT of bad stock rods or pistons?

I know I missed a few things, but i'm getting tired of this back and fourth. You can call my car shit all you want, I agree it is.
Your turn genius. :roll:

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

haha so you tell me to pm you, then you bring our pm to public light, man your cool! NVM dude you win again, got me yet again!! Prostate is a god, again!! Lmfao!!!

If only we weren't seperated by so many miles, come to IA in Tennesee next year, ill be there with my car. Stop by say hello and check out a well built car, we'll share hello's and prob a few hugs!