Hey Junk2! FU!

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tork_sd89

Baywatch
I never said anything was wrong with the Taiwanese manufacture. My problem is with the lack of QC, the immaturity of those in power, the lack of original parts, etc.

I'm not going to look for the pictures, if someone wants to keep their car free of trash, that's on them. I provided you the tools, its your job to use them.
Well where the fuck were the pics posted. K20a, hondatech? where?
 

XjoEnX

Active Member
I do see your point. And thank you for responding.

Good point, I overlooked that most of those threads were started by Skunk2 and k20 is where it's signal (it feels weird I'm calling him this) that is continuing to keep his thread alive. Sorry about that. :(

When you mentioned prior to the bounty, it's safe to assume that Skunk2 would be ok with sales until signal's information on them was posted. From a legal standpoint though, I really do see Skunk2 winning this one. The loss of any sales/profits/revenue that may have occurred since signal shared his thoughts could have liability placed on him.

I did see the photos of the cams being manufactured but I can't take it into account as being sufficient evidence to use as those pics could be from any factory. None of the photos show that they were taken from inside a Group-A or Skunk2 warehouse/manufacturing/quality control building. They were just taken, so it's easy to say that could be any factory.
Signal needs to videotape that factory inside and out to prove his claim. :)

I am so tired. Good night my precious people. XOXOXO, bye, peace sign, blows a kiss XD
 

slowtec

Internet Tough Guy
<< Just spent the last 3 hours of my life following this rabbit hole to the ends of the interweb... and I will never get it back.

Simply put, it was a company that got bashed (correctly or incorrectly doesn't matter to most businesses as much as just trying to glaze over it) and decided that they could use their money, or the illusion of it, to scare them back into line. Similar to the way recording labels and movie studios starting cracking down on pirating in the late 90s - early 2000s. They'd have their attorneys send out cease and desists and open ended threats about what they could do if you didn't comply, etc. Nothing will probably come of it, and even if something does happen, it'll be abandoned the moment it seems like one of those two might not just roll over and die. Plus they'd have a hard time playing down the negative atmosphere in the forums if they took a couple of members to court over some internet bullshitting, you know?

Man, I had high hopes for this and it turned out to be boring as hell. Thought it was going to by juicy, but no go.
 

jdmjim

nothing from nowhere
they will continue to grow and prosper, people dont care and continue to use them because of their name i guess. im sure theres 100s of thank you letters on their walls.
 

klutchDb7

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Klutch why you such a n00b?

And I'd respect his opinion as a business owner a lot more if he paid the fee to this forum to advertise for his 'business' rather than tell people to PM him in his sig.
Lmfao that's it? Just gonna call me a n00b?

Mitch doesn't have to because he has not posted actual parts for sale on the site like all the other "vendors" have. Now, if he did start to post up parts he has for sale, then as per the for sale rules, yes, he would have to become an actual site registered vendor, which is an action I would support. But the fact of the matter is he doesn't have to, so you really should just quit complaining about it. He is a great businessman, honest, helpful, on the ball, And unlike most businesses out there today, not in it to male as much money as he can off of people just trying to pursue their hobbies. I've ordered from him many times and in all honesty you couldn't get better automotive related service at a Lamborghini dealership. So I stand by him.
 

thenoxus1

Quick-Spool Racing LLC
1 month later registration date = n00b?

If anything your tinted headlights and rattlecanned stock wheels signify n00bness.

Klutch why you such a n00b?

And I'd respect his opinion as a business owner a lot more if he paid the fee to this forum to advertise for his 'business' rather than tell people to PM him in his sig.

@XjoEnX, I'll respond when I read your post.
See. Now you're gonna call my business out. I actually do sponsor the forum. As a small startup I don't need to have the full vendor setup because my site isn't finished etc. I pay Justin a monthly fee to be allowed to advertise and have that in my signature. So actually...I do pay. Here's an example of a butthurt community member calling out a company and trying to start drama. I never individually called you out. So don't attack me dude. I have an opinion just like you.
 

jdmjim

nothing from nowhere
I have a confession. I don't give a s*** about all this. I think this is a ridiculous amount of drama over a business. Especially when all info is basically based on forums. I am not going to even read the articles :)
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Gbaby2089

Negative Ned
See. Now you're gonna call my business out. I actually do sponsor the forum. As a small startup I don't need to have the full vendor setup because my site isn't finished etc. I pay Justin a monthly fee to be allowed to advertise and have that in my signature. So actually...I do pay. Here's an example of a butthurt community member calling out a company and trying to start drama. I never individually called you out. So don't attack me dude. I have an opinion just like you.
That's fine, but please don't act like only people who own their own businesses know anything about how that works. That's ridiculous. Any moron can start a business, (not saying you are one, but we both know that's the case) being successful and truly understanding how business works are not something that many businesses accomplish.

Well where the f*** were the pics posted. K20a, hondatech? where?
I think K20a or NWP.

I do see your point. And thank you for responding.

Good point, I overlooked that most of those threads were started by Skunk2 and k20 is where it's signal (it feels weird I'm calling him this) that is continuing to keep his thread alive. Sorry about that. :(

When you mentioned prior to the bounty, it's safe to assume that Skunk2 would be ok with sales until signal's information on them was posted. From a legal standpoint though, I really do see Skunk2 winning this one. The loss of any sales/profits/revenue that may have occurred since signal shared his thoughts could have liability placed on him.

I did see the photos of the cams being manufactured but I can't take it into account as being sufficient evidence to use as those pics could be from any factory. None of the photos show that they were taken from inside a Group-A or Skunk2 warehouse/manufacturing/quality control building. They were just taken, so it's easy to say that could be any factory.
Signal needs to videotape that factory inside and out to prove his claim. :)

I am so tired. Good night my precious people. XOXOXO, bye, peace sign, blows a kiss XD
lulz fair evaluation.
 

SexySSBP

Kwicherbichen
That's fine, but please don't act like only people who own their own businesses know anything about how that works. That's ridiculous. Any moron can start a business, (not saying you are one, but we both know that's the case) being successful and truly understanding how business works are not something that many businesses accomplish..
See, this is why most here think you are a tool. You made a direct accusation towards Mitch, in your all knowing way. He directly refuted that and proved why you were wrong. To make it worse, he had never called you out or accused you of anything previously. You owed him an apology, or at least an admission that you were wrong. Your response? "Fine, but here's where I still think i am right." It's too bad, because I think a lot of your opinions are valid, I just can't stomach your arrogance. It's hard not to just start mocking you at every chance I get.
 

00DC2TW

New Member
Keep in mind...that by saying you won't buy their product, that just as immature IMHO, they still make good stuff....
Good stuff with bad quality control from what I have heard... I won't ever buy anything from them that goes in/on the engine from what I have seen across all the forums.
 

Samurai_Blue

Yolo Whippin'
Their springs are s*** = FACT. Too soft by far
lowering springs are soft. period.

I agree with this. My eibachs bottom out with the s2 springs. Tho I'm not sure how long they have been on the car. It had this setup when I bought the car. That's the main reason I want new coilovers.
lowering springs are soft and made for comfort.


They're unprofessional. Seriously this is stupid! They ARE group a motorsports and they are trying to hide it now but when someone exposes the truth they become a 12 year old girl. Theyre blocking people on Facebook! How low do you go?? Lol I'm never ever buying skunk2 again.

They're just digging themselves a deeper hole.. They suck the end.
skunk2 never denied being group a autosports. it says it on the bottom of their website...


Did no one read my post? They don ever hide the fact that they're group a. Bunch of misinformed people on here just spouting what people tell them.
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Why do u thi they're trying to sue the two kids?? It's because they explained what s2 was..
S2 is trying to hide it from those who don't know.
I won't buy from someone who can't stand to handle a little truth. Rota can hang but s2 can't handle the pressure from a few ppl
for lible. skunk2 never denied not making their own products, they dont say they make their own products. They do their own RnD and designing in house. they then ship it out to china to get mass produced. the question at hand is their actual rnd process. Group A Motorsports is on the bottom of the skunk2 page. it says "2011 © Copyright Group-A Autosports ·" IMHO thats not hiding anything its in plain sight.



edit: this thread is going nowhere. Very few people actually have a grasp of whats going on, people are making shit up and not seeing the obvious.

Clif Notes for the entire skunk2 debocle:
1: lack of quality control
2: :Lack of an RnD process (he says she says)

Skunk2 claims to do RnD in house as well as design
Skunk2 never claimed to not be group a autosports as its listed under their website "2011 © Copyright Group-A Autosports ·"
Skunk2 never claimed to manufacture their own products.
 
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