1987 Integra RS

[87Teg]

Yea I definitely am lucky. If I wouldve missed it my other mounts couldve broken and Id really be in trouble. I just got back from the junkyard and I found an 87' 4 door Civic with a d15a2 engine and manual transmission. The car is in immaculate shape and I see no reason that it should be sitting in the junkyard. Unfortunately I already have too many cars and cannot save it. I was wondering though, will the transmission from the da15a2 swap over to the d16a1 in my Teg? If so Im going back in a few days to pull everything from the car. If someone is interested in saving this car let me know.

 

[enoch723]

Yeah I come across beautiful cars in the yard every once in awhile. People do it sometimes if they just cant sell it or something simple like irraticle idle or even something that doesnt show like the piston rings allow too much blow by and you lose compression. Ive seen some crazy shit in the yard before.

Im pretty sure the d15a2 was only in the crx too so it might be swapped which is kind of pointless cause its essential a cvcc engine. They are fairly gutless and dont have any aftermarket parts. Lol. They probably swapped it thinking it would be cool, and realized it was a HUGE waste of time and were pissed off.

It might fit, but I wouldnt think so just cause the bolt pattern might be different because a d16 is bigger then a 15. Like I said though it very well could fit. I would try and find a stock cg transmission though. Its the stock transmission for the g1 tegs, and they are really really durable. I still am running the same clutch the car was made with and the owner that had the car before me raped this crap out of the engine and transmission.

 

[87Teg]

Yeah I figured the engine blew or something along those lines. I looked up the hp rating on the engine its like 72hp so a bit disappointing lol. I read that you can swap parts over to that engine to make it have more power like you said I could do with ZC cams and stuff for the DOHC d16. It was the stock engine though, the engine number plate in the engine bay said d15a2 so it came in that car originally. I only asked if it would swap over because its so close by and its dirt cheap. I found out it wont work though which sucks. I can pull a full engine and trans for $100. I seen a bunch of DC2 Integras there, kind of made me want to buy an engine from one and swap it into the DA3.

 

[enoch723]

Wow. That is a really good yard if you can pull and engine and tranny for 100. Thats crazy cheap. It must be a canadian car or something. They did some real crazy stuff with their honda's. Lol.

Yeah the DC's or DB's are all b series engines. Which can be done to swwap but its a hell of a chore. Have to get axles, wire harness, ecu and get rid of the power steering and ac along with doing custom mounts and so on. Its a lot of work, but it would be worth it cause it truely is a one of kind car at that point and you would have a civic hatch with a b swap, but could still be corner killer which is really where a honda shines

 

[87Teg]

Yeah Im not sure where it was manufactured because the sticker was ripped off on the inside door jam. It was all stock though and to me it shouldnt have been in a junkyard. It says thats the prices on their site but it might be a few years old, I dont know. What is the difference between a DA and DB? There was only one of them at the junkyard and the engine was pulled. I seen at least 3 or 4 DCs though. All had engines and between the few of em I could find the parts I need. I didnt mean to swap the B series engine into that Civic at the yard though I meant my Integra. I remember one of the first posts on my build thread on here someone said my car needs a B series swap. Lol

 

[enoch723]

I said civic because the g1 teg and the civic hatchs are so similar. Same weight and everything. A DA or DC just refers to the chassis code. The problem with the tegs is that saying like DA or DB doesnt always refer to what you mean. For instance the 1st gen integras have 2 difference chassis refering to the number of doors. DA1 is a 2 door, DA3 is a 4 door but a 2g can also be a DA9, DB1, or a DB2 and the 3g can be a DB7, DB8, DC2 or DC4. Hard to follow. Lol. Thats whay I always just refer to the generation rather then the chassis code, cause it can be consfusing.

But both 2gs and 3gs have b18's unless its a 2g gsr which is a b17, which if you find a b17.. Grab it. Even if you just resell it you will make a ton. But to be honest would be badass if you swapped it in to your G1

 

[87Teg]

Oh alright I got you. It all makes sense to me now lol. It does seem a little confusing with all the different chassis codes. So I have a DA1 not a DA3. I was looking up info on B series engines last night. The two I was interested in was the GSR B17 and the Type-R B16B. I assume since the 2nd gen is pretty popular that those engines are hard to come by at a good price. I owned a 2nd gen with a B18/GSR trans that was highly modded but I had to part it out due to title issues. I drove the car like 5 miles total, I was pissed. I have a lot of time to decide which B series engine I want to swap in so Im going to take my time with this and research.

 

[enoch723]

Like I said you would be a boss if you got a b17 swapped in there. good power house but hard to find in good condition. You could just a basic b18 for around 800 or so, there a dime a dozen. B16 would be easiest to swap and probably easiest to get and find but you would still have to get rid of the power steering ac and have to get the cv's, wire harness, ecu and custom mounts.

The best bang for your buck will probably be a d16y8 out of a del sol. Easy to come by, only cost about 400, has vtec, only need 1 custom mount from what ive been told, and just need the ecu. Has a little less power then the stock a1 we have, but there is vtec and is a lot easier to find aftermarket parts for.

Im just sticking with the a1 though and just taking my time to find the zc parts I need

 

[87Teg]

I like the D16A1 but its too hard to find parts for. If I keep this car I want to be able to easily build it and not have to search for hard to find parts. The engine runs great so itd be a shame if I pulled it. I just got to decide what to do with it. About that the Del Sol engine, it doesnt sound that bad. I probably can find one at the the junkyard. There are at least 4 3rd gen Integras there though. I have the car for sale on craigslist right now. If I sell it Ill probably buy a 2nd gen Teg if not Ill just keep it and mod it.

 

[enoch723]

Yeah the 2gs are so much easier to mod and everything. You will have a lot better base to build off, more parts in yard and a lot easier to find any kind of parts world wide. Sad thing is you probably wont get much for your G1. They dont bluebook very high and craigslist for even less. You just got to find that right buyer though. Sometimes you can come by that one person that knows what it is and everything. Good luck to you man hopefully everything works out

 

[87Teg]

I had it up for $1,600 and had a few people interested in it and I just posted it for sale last night. I kind of want to keep the G1 I like it a lot but who knows I can just see how things go with selling the car or not. I bought a new valve cover gasket and with spark plug gaskets and grommets. Im going to Autozone today to buy engine enamel but Im not sure if I should paint the valve cover a similar cover to the stock brown, red, or black. I have to see the colors Autozone has. If the cars sells cool, if not its cool too. Im in no rush. I can see that basically every other series Integra has alot of aftermarket parts available still. I guess the G1 is just getting too old for people to care about it that much anymore. Granted there still are some.

 

[87Teg]

I found a JDM S20 hydro transmission from a DOHC ZC with a stage 2 clutch and flywheel from a SOHC ZC for $450. Will it bolt up to my d16a1? The guy claims it will bolt up with no problem or mods and that it will make the engine come to life due to the different gearing ratio. I know the 1st gear ratio in the JDM s20 trans is higher than the USDM CG transmission. If anyone can let me know it be awesome, thanks. I looked it up on Honda Tech and it seems that people were able to swap it in but wasnt gone into detail about.

 

[87Teg]

Enoch, you should go on vintage integra clubs facebook page. there is someone on there selling an HKS turbo kit for the dohc d16a1. he said hes selling it to the highest bidder so if interested check it out. i believe he said it gives you 160hp to the wheels but with ZC cams/pistons/cam gears and whatever else you said you were going to install for more power youd be closer to the 200hp mark. 200hp in a car as light as the g1 integra is alot of power. i like to look at all aspects of my car all the time and as i was laying on the ground looking at where my t bars bolt to the fram i realized that the area is pretty rusty right at the mounting area. kind of freaks me out alittle bit. im not sure how bad the rust is yet, i have to poke at it with a screw driver and see if its rust or actualy rot. if its rot im kind of shit out of luck. i dont think that area can be too easily repaired but at the same time i could be wrong. im not trying to spend money to get the frame fixed. id rather sell it to someone who is willing to and move on with another car. i can try to get a pic of both sides so you people can take a look at let me know. i may end up going the same route as you enoch, just take my time and build the d16. its a good running engine and has potential. i need to know about that tranny i posted about above still.

 

[enoch723]

If it came off a dohc zc then it will fit no problem. The only difference between a zc set up and d16 set up is the zc was in japan and had a little beefer internals. It should bolt right on without having any trouble at all. Might have to shave a little bit to make room for the shifter but you shouldnt need to.

Gear ratio it wont be much different then having a stock cg tranny but it will be a huge improvement over a auto. The gear ratio is almost the same in the zc as the cg. The zc tranny has shorter gears in like 1st and 2nd to get off the line but cg's got taller 3rd and 4th for higher end power. A really popular mod to do is a 3g accord 5th gear swap in the cg. Its a lot taller and has bigger teeth. At a loss of about 2whp you gain like 5-10 mpg

I would love to buy the turbo but I would have money till I get my tax returns but I need to save it on other stuff. Thanks for looking out for me man. Ive been on there but I like honda roots and nw honda classics just cause they are more everyday kind of updates

 

[87Teg]

I was looking it up and it will bolt up fine but on Hondatech someone said a custom mount has to be made. I dont know if thats true or not. Ill need a clutch pedal, clutch master cylinder, clutch fluid line for sure but do I definitely need a ECU from a manual 86-87 Integra? And are the ECU plugs on the harness and ECU the same from auto to manual? I seen something about that 3rd gen. Accord 5th gear swap when I was looking stuff up last night. Pretty cool mod.

That HKS kit is super rare and I would love to buy it too but Im sure he wants around a grand and I cant afford that right now. Id hate to lowball him with a $400-$500 offer but thats all I can afford at the moment. No problem though and yeah I check out them both too I just happened to see that kit on there a week or so ago and seen he finally took it off the car.

Now about the rust at the T bar mounting area on passenger side, I poked at it with my key and realized the metal around the solid framing inside is rotted away along with some metal right in front of the T bar mounting area but the sold metal frame inside where the bolts are mounted too "seem" ok. I need to jack the car up and see how bad it really is.

Still havent decided what to do with the engine build either. Stuck between ideas. lol. Im doing some work to the Teg this weekend though. Changing valve cover gasket , paint the valve cover wrinkle black, thermostat change and coolant flush, clean the EACV, fix exhaust with custom straight pipe set up. I finally cleaned the car and detailed it alittle. Ill post some new pics up today of the interior. Tomorrow Ill get some of the valve cover painted up.