To the OP, to answer your original question....People are just trying to get back the money that they put into their cars...What they don't know is, "YOU DON'T ALWAYS GET YOUR MONEY BACK"...Think of it as a bootleg operation of flipping cars. The only real Honda's worth any owners asking price, in my opinion, are the VERY rare Honda's, such as the Integra Type R, only less than 4000 in the US, the 2nd GEN Integra GSR, limited edition, very rare option in that model year. Since fanboys are the ones that are creating the demand for such collectible gems, sellers can drive up the asking price. Rare cars and Collectibles are the cars you can state your asking price...everything else can be negotiated, and if they don't budge, you can always walk away....