TURBO or N/A with NOS?

[mteg]

You either stay N/A or you don't there's no i'm gonna stay N/A and run nitrous, because you wouldn't be naturally aspirated, you would be using a type of forced induction, in this case nitrous. So either you want to run nitrous or turbo it, not go N/A. I would just turbo it and call it a day.

I've always wondered this-why N2O is considered forced induction. It doesn't really force anything, rather just helps you burn fuel faster. Just a thought.

 

[dc2GS-R]

It is not really forced inducton. The nitrous has a much higher oxygen content than air. Unnaturally injecting more o2 into the engine than it would naturally inhale wouldn't be considered natural aspiration though. Using different techniques, it essentially accomplishes the same thing as compressors by getting more oxygen into the cylinders. It is just considered a form chemical induction.

 

[Aussie]

It is not really forced inducton. The nitrous has a much higher oxygen content than air. Unnaturally injecting more o2 into the engine than it would naturally inhale wouldn't be considered natural aspiration though. Using different techniques, it essentially accomplishes the same thing as compressors by getting more oxygen into the cylinders. It is just considered a form chemical induction.

It's more nitrogen then oxygen and yes it helps burn more fuel and lower the intake charge temperature but from a builders perspective I consider it a type of forced induction because i will build the motor like i would build it for a forced induction setup not a n/a setup.

 

[heykosal]

if you're an idiot driver who floors/slams the gas/double clutches/sucks at driving stick shift..

do you know what double clutching is?? and i dont mean what vin diesel said in fast and furious i mean real double clutching(double DEclutching)...IMO its a pretty advanced skill. some idiot driver could never pull it off.

 

[Aussie]

do you know what double clutching is?? and i dont mean what vin diesel said in fast and furious i mean real double clutching(double DEclutching)...IMO its a pretty advanced skill. some idiot driver could never pull it off.

There's absolutely no need to double clutch any new cars, it was for trannys without synchros to rev match the engine to get it to the same speed as the tranny so you could get in gear. It is absolutely useless for anything else and is a complete waste of time.

 

[heykosal]

yeah i just meant that double declutching wouldnt be hard on the tranny/clutch whole drivetrain for that matter..and some idiot driver would have no clue what double clutching really is...unlike you mr aussie who can explain better than I. lol

 

[Aussie]

yeah i just meant that double declutching wouldnt be hard on the tranny/clutch whole drivetrain for that matter..and some idiot driver would have no clue what double clutching really is...unlike you mr aussie who can explain better than I. lol

Yea, I mean I wasn't correcting you, more just putting an explanation down. But your right it does take some skill and a good bit more timing than driving a regular transmission. Hardly used for racing tho, in fact I doubt it was ever really used as a technique for racing, more for truck driving.:lol:

 

[dc2GS-R]

It's more nitrogen then oxygen and yes it helps burn more fuel and lower the intake charge temperature but from a builders perspective I consider it a type of forced induction because i will build the motor like i would build it for a forced induction setup not a n/a setup.

Yeah, and it still has like twice as much oxygen as ordinary air. It doesn't burn more fuel. It injects more oxygen which allows you to burn more fuel and make more power. It is on the same concept as forced induction because it forces more oxygen into the cylinders. Nitrous is full of oxygen compared to atmospheric air. You can't just inject straight o2 or it's gonna be just like an oxy-acetalyne torch. It shouldn't be built n/a and nitrous though I agree.

 

[heykosal]

more for truck driving.:lol:

i love what vin diesel says in tfatf1 "granny shifting not double clutching like you should' HAH

 

[Winki]

Boost gets you laid

 

[Aussie]

Yeah, and it still has like twice as much oxygen as ordinary air. It doesn't burn more fuel. It injects more oxygen which allows you to burn more fuel and make more power. It is on the same concept as forced induction because it forces more oxygen into the cylinders. Nitrous is full of oxygen compared to atmospheric air. You can't just inject straight o2 or it's gonna be just like an oxy-acetalyne torch. It shouldn't be built n/a and nitrous though I agree.

Physics was my favorite class in school:: We did an experiment where we made nitrous from heating a combination of sulfamic acid and nitric acid. Not a good kind to use in cars tho.:lol:

 

[Disco]

Holy crap I wish I wouldve seen that jackass post about no2 earlier. Good job defending the nitrous aussie. That guy is lucky he got you instead of me. I wouldda had to go chat room gangsta on him

 

[dc2GS-R]

Yea, I mean I wasn't correcting you, more just putting an explanation down. But your right it does take some skill and a good bit more timing than driving a regular transmission. Hardly used for racing tho, in fact I doubt it was ever really used as a technique for racing, more for truck driving.:lol:

I just noticed this. I agree for the most part. The only way I ever use it is when trying to downshift into first at speed. Double clutching with some good rev matching makes it so much easier on the tranny. Sometimes cars to like to go into first at 20mph regardless of the synchro condition. But most people will never do that to their car anyway and I only do it on tight 1 gear corners on autox courses

 

[Aussie]

I just noticed this. I agree for the most part. The only way I ever use it is when trying to downshift into first at speed. Double clutching with some good rev matching makes it so much easier on the tranny. Sometimes cars to like to go into first at 20mph regardless of the synchro condition. But most people will never do that to their car anyway and I only do it on tight 1 gear corners on autox courses

I've never needed to downshift to first except when stopping and starting, just about all my cars have been geared low enough so that first gear is more of a dogleg.

 

[JDMxDB8]

I've never needed to downshift to first except when stopping and starting, just about all my cars have been geared low enough so that first gear is more of a dogleg.

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