So i ran my car at the track
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killab18
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Ok well you guys are saying that the sr20 cost $1000. you would have to find the craziest deal and an idiot to get it for that cheap. Yes they used to be that cheap but not anymore. just like any honda swap, before Fast and furious they were really cheap as well, but now they are at least $2500 for a full swap with everything you need. and thats how much sr20det's are. and yes with $1500 i bet your friend get that much power, but im sure that wasnt including buying the motorswap. there fore would be like $4000 now. Which is still not too too much for that power but i can build a KA for $4000 and have close to 500hp if not way more.
-i have no idea how this got into a bashing thread.lol. but before you guys start bashing something you might want to do a little research and not just go off of a friends one setup.
-aussie, any links to your 240sx. it sounds like it was a nice setup. im curious to what you were running?? what turbo, fuel system and stuff. but with 29psi what were your numbers?? Definetly over 500hp right??
-well you guys can think what you want about whatever you want. If i dont pick up this guys sr20det clip for the crazy deal of $2000 and its in my town then i will be building a ka24det setup and show you all that its worth every dime and is very reliable and can produce very good numbers and for a very good price.
-i have no idea how this got into a bashing thread.lol. but before you guys start bashing something you might want to do a little research and not just go off of a friends one setup.
-aussie, any links to your 240sx. it sounds like it was a nice setup. im curious to what you were running?? what turbo, fuel system and stuff. but with 29psi what were your numbers?? Definetly over 500hp right??
-well you guys can think what you want about whatever you want. If i dont pick up this guys sr20det clip for the crazy deal of $2000 and its in my town then i will be building a ka24det setup and show you all that its worth every dime and is very reliable and can produce very good numbers and for a very good price.
KA4LIFE
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aussie and dc2gs-r. stop talking out of your lower holes cuz if you knew anything about ka's and building motors you wouldnt be bashing it like all them uneducated riceboys. there are a ton of ka-t setups now, because many of us decided to pull our heads out of our asses and research our options. we all know you like your displacements as small as possible, that's why you guys drive hondas lol, but then again, not all of us are going to throw away .4 displacement and a stock motor for something that is jdm tyte yo!
Free > 2000+ dollars
2.4 > 2.0
Iron block > Aluminum
Cast pistons < Forged pistons ( but can be equal to or greater with a little investment.)
and that sums it up right there. mindless babbling never got anyone anywhere.
Free > 2000+ dollars
2.4 > 2.0
Iron block > Aluminum
Cast pistons < Forged pistons ( but can be equal to or greater with a little investment.)
and that sums it up right there. mindless babbling never got anyone anywhere.
Keepitslideways
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Are you arguing about my beloved KA24DE and the SR20DET on this honda forum? Blasphomy!!!!!!!! There is no argument, KA24DE for the $$ can out run the SR.. They may be outdated, but for $150 pick up a motor & tranny, for another $2k throw a NICE turbo kit, cometic hg, arp head studs, and run low 13's. Now... $2500 opposed to $3000+extra for a 14 second SR? 
and my KA will be doing 275-300 hp for $1500...
including the motor.
and my KA will be doing 275-300 hp for $1500...
including the motor.
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dc2GS-R
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we got an sr20det front clip for $1500. and for the rest of ya'll calling me a honda ricer, you need to mind your own business...i don't even drive a honda. sorry i can build a car for cheap and have connections to do shit right for a good price while you pay outraegous prices for your stuff
you are paying waayyy too much for what your stating
so read and learn before you respond. i don't drive a honda. sr is better than ka. not saying ka completely sucks but i can do this for next to nothing and so can the average enthusiast. if you want my opinion...then 4G63!!!!!!!
you are paying waayyy too much for what your stating
so read and learn before you respond. i don't drive a honda. sr is better than ka. not saying ka completely sucks but i can do this for next to nothing and so can the average enthusiast. if you want my opinion...then 4G63!!!!!!!
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Aussie
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http://www.sunrisejdmmotors.com/nissan.php
theres a link to a cheap motor. There are cheaper places to buy but Its too early right now.
My car was making 417 on the dyno. I had some custom ground cams, and valve train. The othere usaul stuff like afc and boost controller, FMIC. LOL and 29 lbs on the t25 potato disk. It was sent in to turbo inovations and redone with there magic. Full boost by 4000rpm. The car was hitting super low 11's on shitty radials. The cool thing was we incorporated a 300zx rear end and differential into it. But all that was done for under 4000 with the motor. I had it running 12's for about 2000g's. Oh and sorry about the KA bashing, I understand they are solid motors, but IMO they can't handle the constant abuse that the SR's can. Just because its an IRON block doesn't mean its stronger. You can't take a KA and bounce it off the rev limiter for 20 strait minutes. I could do that on a stock sr. But you do what you want, I just haven't seen those motors hold up too well.
theres a link to a cheap motor. There are cheaper places to buy but Its too early right now.
My car was making 417 on the dyno. I had some custom ground cams, and valve train. The othere usaul stuff like afc and boost controller, FMIC. LOL and 29 lbs on the t25 potato disk. It was sent in to turbo inovations and redone with there magic. Full boost by 4000rpm. The car was hitting super low 11's on shitty radials. The cool thing was we incorporated a 300zx rear end and differential into it. But all that was done for under 4000 with the motor. I had it running 12's for about 2000g's. Oh and sorry about the KA bashing, I understand they are solid motors, but IMO they can't handle the constant abuse that the SR's can. Just because its an IRON block doesn't mean its stronger. You can't take a KA and bounce it off the rev limiter for 20 strait minutes. I could do that on a stock sr. But you do what you want, I just haven't seen those motors hold up too well.
Aussie
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thats great and run that SR 10 passes in a row, I can almost garuntee that after 3 passes you'll be running 14's and for 3000 I can have that sr running 12's consistantly with no down time for 12 strait hours. Do that with a KA. KA's are not boost freindly motors.Keepitslideways said:Are you arguing about my beloved KA24DE and the SR20DET on this honda forum? Blasphomy!!!!!!!! There is no argument, KA24DE for the $$ can out run the SR.. They may be outdated, but for $150 pick up a motor & tranny, for another $2k throw a NICE turbo kit, cometic hg, arp head studs, and run low 13's. Now... $2500 opposed to $3000+extra for a 14 second SR?
and my KA will be doing 275-300 hp for $1500...
including the motor.
Aussie
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I not here to argue, people r going to do what they want, and I'm glad you live on the 240 boards, I've owned one with both motors in it, so therefore from experience, not hear say I'm giving my opinion. And Since this is an INTEGRA board I'm done arguing about this. I sold my 240 and bought a honda. Best choice I ever made!
MrBojangles
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Aussie and DC2GS-R, I get sick to my stomach with the amount of bullshit you are throwing in your posts.
DC you have yet to throw in any other information other than "I think SR's are better than KA's"... Pull your ignorant head out of your ass and educate yourself before you post.
As for you Aussie, the KA has a stronger block and valvetrain... you say you cant bounce the rev limiter on a ka for 20 minutes..... lol... you must have never tried (lol ignorace once again.... all you guys have is assumptions because you never thought about learning about something before you fucking try and convince others to your side of the point). We left a brick on a S13 w/ a 1994 ka24de in nuetral for an hour (purposefully trying to blow the motor so he could put his RB20 in).... came back and it had run out of gas. We had to manually remove the rev limiter and even then it took til 8200 rpm's to throw a rod through the block (18x,xxx mile motor too). You say you run 29 PSI on a t25 potato disk..... im going to have to call bullshit on that and wait for links.... not only is it highly unlikley that you'd run 29 psi.... but its also not likely the motor would stay. The SR is very unrelaxed when it comes to high boost even with a fully built bottom end. The highest that I've seen a shop take their sr (and still ended up blowing a piston ring 4 dyno runs later) was 24 PSI at which they were making 572 whp untuned and still having full boost by 3700 rpms. SR motors on high boost(22+ PSI) are very unpredictable even if they are built.
DC back to your comment about the 1500$ sr... thats about right in my books. I've been offered on multiple occasions a s14 sr and was quoted roughly 1500 for the complete motorset. However with that ammount of money, you could already have a built KA with a cheap boost setup making probably 250 to the wheels. Also I don't think that keepitslideways was calling you a honda ricer.... i mean their are plenty of DSM ricers out there too. He just commented about you guys liking small motors and seeing how your sig is a Eclipse i'm going to have to say at largest that motor is 2.0 L
Bottom line:
KA motor flows more air. More air means more fuel can combust in one ignition (Chem 101: Combustion Reactions). More fuel in a combustion reaction generates more energy. More energy = more hp.
KA's have higher torque and will always produce more torque than a SR at the same HP bc of the bore and stroke (rotational physics 101 bitches)
If you want to learn more before you embarace yourself (since this thread is floating from 240 forum to 240 forum and hundreds of members are laughing at your ignorance) try heading over to KA-T.org
Sincerely,
MrBojangles
DC you have yet to throw in any other information other than "I think SR's are better than KA's"... Pull your ignorant head out of your ass and educate yourself before you post.
As for you Aussie, the KA has a stronger block and valvetrain... you say you cant bounce the rev limiter on a ka for 20 minutes..... lol... you must have never tried (lol ignorace once again.... all you guys have is assumptions because you never thought about learning about something before you fucking try and convince others to your side of the point). We left a brick on a S13 w/ a 1994 ka24de in nuetral for an hour (purposefully trying to blow the motor so he could put his RB20 in).... came back and it had run out of gas. We had to manually remove the rev limiter and even then it took til 8200 rpm's to throw a rod through the block (18x,xxx mile motor too). You say you run 29 PSI on a t25 potato disk..... im going to have to call bullshit on that and wait for links.... not only is it highly unlikley that you'd run 29 psi.... but its also not likely the motor would stay. The SR is very unrelaxed when it comes to high boost even with a fully built bottom end. The highest that I've seen a shop take their sr (and still ended up blowing a piston ring 4 dyno runs later) was 24 PSI at which they were making 572 whp untuned and still having full boost by 3700 rpms. SR motors on high boost(22+ PSI) are very unpredictable even if they are built.
DC back to your comment about the 1500$ sr... thats about right in my books. I've been offered on multiple occasions a s14 sr and was quoted roughly 1500 for the complete motorset. However with that ammount of money, you could already have a built KA with a cheap boost setup making probably 250 to the wheels. Also I don't think that keepitslideways was calling you a honda ricer.... i mean their are plenty of DSM ricers out there too. He just commented about you guys liking small motors and seeing how your sig is a Eclipse i'm going to have to say at largest that motor is 2.0 L
Bottom line:
KA motor flows more air. More air means more fuel can combust in one ignition (Chem 101: Combustion Reactions). More fuel in a combustion reaction generates more energy. More energy = more hp.
KA's have higher torque and will always produce more torque than a SR at the same HP bc of the bore and stroke (rotational physics 101 bitches)
If you want to learn more before you embarace yourself (since this thread is floating from 240 forum to 240 forum and hundreds of members are laughing at your ignorance) try heading over to KA-T.org
Sincerely,
MrBojangles
pumaking
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dc2GS-R said:
LOL Dude shut the fuck up you seriously have no clue what your talking about. You dont even know how thermodynamics work.
The Head on the SR20 sucks it cant flow air as well, not to mention its rocker arm design sucks also.
Leave the motor stuff to the big boys go back to building your POS Eclipse.
Very nice score on a bitch car :roll: