Safe Power
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Winki
Undercover mod
Too many to list. Basically 4-1header, testpipe, ws exhaust, aem cai, itr tb-64mm, im, fuel rail, fpr, cams, cam gears, retainers and springs, wires, plugs, ig coil, nx wet kit, stage 2 tc, tranny cooler, and some other stuff.
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mteg
Automatic Lover
Hence my signature. Should be interesting if I get that jrsc.key ingredent8)
Winki
Undercover mod
Here in kc there are a lot of turbo hondas but N2O is super rare on an import but i have seen one teg with a JRSCHence my signature. Should be interesting if I get that jrsc.
end005
New Member
so you want to keep it auto and push 250-300 whp? well then, scratch the s/c cause that'll never happen...well..it could but no one in their right mind would do it. get rid of that transmission...and please just doing it becuase "you want to be different" is the dumbest justification ever, and well....to be honest, to reach those numbers, just go with a turbo.i would like to keep it auto
soo what are the mods to reach about 250-300 whp
but, my honest opinion is, don't waste all that money on an auto and don't spend all that money on supercharging your automatic LS...just becuase you want to be different.
mteg
Automatic Lover
Lol, thats my goal this summer-to hit 240-250whp on the dyno-in an automatic. Slapping a turbo on isn't going to net you 250-300whp any better or easyier than an sc. At that amount of hp, you still need a lot of other things. Personally, a 5 speed swap is the dumbest thing someone can do. Just buy a different car. Personally when I get bored with what I have, and can't get any more power out of my car, I'm just going to give it to my step duaghter and buy something else-probably an evo or something. The thread was about building power in an automatic, not reasons to do a 5-speed swap. Yeah, 300whp in a automatic is a tough call, but is possible-built motor, n20, etc... Besides, why even build an ls when a gsr motor has so much more potential. Not to mention, theres probably only a small percentage of people on this forum that can claim 200whp, let alone 300whp. If someone wants to build an automatic, give them support for bieng different. Besides, it's a lot harder for some to make excuses when they get their ass spanked by an automatic non-vtec.so you want to keep it auto and push 250-300 whp? well then, scratch the s/c cause that'll never happen...well..it could but no one in their right mind would do it. get rid of that transmission...and please just doing it becuase "you want to be different" is the dumbest justification ever, and well....to be honest, to reach those numbers, just go with a turbo.
but, my honest opinion is, don't waste all that money on an auto and don't spend all that money on supercharging your automatic LS...just becuase you want to be different.
end005
New Member
LOL. I think I read somewhere in the thread that he wanted to put $4k into the build? Personally, its a bad investment. With a supercharger, the kit is already almost $1500, if you're boosting more than 10lbs (a couple more bills to get the upgraded pulley too), its suggested you run the after/intercooler which is another $300 or so and yet even then you're only about 250whp. It just seems that with a supercharger, you're always limited with the amount of boost as you always have to upgrade something on the blower. ALSO, the blowers only last for so many miles. I figure if he really really wants to hit those numbers, go turbo. Atleast each time you want to boost more you don't have to upgrade a pulley or what not. And to be honest, there are more options with a turbo than a supercharger. Superchargers aren't known for making high hp numbers. Its sort of a bolt on that makes your motor a meaner version. haha.Lol, thats my goal this summer-to hit 240-250whp on the dyno-in an automatic. Slapping a turbo on isn't going to net you 250-300whp any better or easyier than an sc. At that amount of hp, you still need a lot of other things. Personally, a 5 speed swap is the dumbest thing someone can do. Just buy a different car. Personally when I get bored with what I have, and can't get any more power out of my car, I'm just going to give it to my step duaghter and buy something else-probably an evo or something. The thread was about building power in an automatic, not reasons to do a 5-speed swap. Yeah, 300whp in a automatic is a tough call, but is possible-built motor, n20, etc... Besides, why even build an ls when a gsr motor has so much more potential. Not to mention, theres probably only a small percentage of people on this forum that can claim 200whp, let alone 300whp. If someone wants to build an automatic, give them support for bieng different. Besides, it's a lot harder for some to make excuses when they get their ass spanked by an automatic non-vtec.
And yeah, the whole thing about converting auto to tranny, its kind of pointless as well. Don't waste all that money. I didn't mean to flame on the guy, but to support the op on this venture, i will not do. I will not becuase he'll be wasting a lot of his money and his time. Also, just doing it because he wants to be different isn't a good enough reason to me. If it has been his childhood dream to own a 300whp automatic LS, then by all means, I would support him.
...but if he decides to go about this, by all means, go at it strong..just don't go through it half way and then give up.....LOL.
mteg..am I going to see you at the central WI meet??
Aussie
Zoom-Zoom
Once again i'm not in the debate but I will say as I said before that i've seen auto d and b series trannys hold up to 250+ hp. The turbo auto d16 civic that used to push around 230hp is now at around 280hp with a stock auto d series with just a performance convertor. The problem is launching it, once you get it going all is well.
On top of that nitrous is the shit, your a fool to laugh at it or call it lame because it's one of if not the most powerful mod you can do.
On top of that nitrous is the shit, your a fool to laugh at it or call it lame because it's one of if not the most powerful mod you can do.
mteg
Automatic Lover
Amen to that. The tranny will hold a decent amount of power. You just gotta treat it right. Routine fluid changes, upgrade the tc, add a tranny cooler ( a very cheap and easy modification-under$40), and no abuse like manually shifting or neutral drops.Once again i'm not in the debate but I will say as I said before that i've seen auto d and b series trannys hold up to 250+ hp. The turbo auto d16 civic that used to push around 230hp is now at around 280hp with a stock auto d series with just a performance convertor. The problem is launching it, once you get it going all is well.
On top of that nitrous is the shit, your a fool to laugh at it or call it lame because it's one of if not the most powerful mod you can do.
I get shit all the time for running nitrous-yet a lot of times I'm racing guys that gut their cars.Most of the time, I still have my spare, and 80lbs box in the back-full interior. The people that bitch about it the most are people that get beat by it.
end005
New Member
i never understood why people took out their backseats, carpet and misc. stuff in the rear. seriously, does it make that BIG of a difference?
nitrous makes you laugh. i wonder if if when you spray, some of it gets into your vents and into your system that makes you like the feeling so much. haha.
nitrous makes you laugh. i wonder if if when you spray, some of it gets into your vents and into your system that makes you like the feeling so much. haha.
mteg
Automatic Lover
Auto n2o and welding n2o are different than whats used at the dentist. If you tried inhaling it, you would probably get a headache and kill lots of brain cells.i never understood why people took out their backseats, carpet and misc. stuff in the rear. seriously, does it make that BIG of a difference?
nitrous makes you laugh. i wonder if if when you spray, some of it gets into your vents and into your system that makes you like the feeling so much. haha.
As for the weight, it can play a big factor. Last summer my friend Rod stripped his 95 civ of almost everything he could-including yanking the stero and dash out. He even pulled the windows, and door panels off. His 1.5 non-vtec beat another friends 99 ex that had full exhaust, intake, header, pullies, cam gear, ect... It was quite an embarrising loss. Another example of this, I saw last month. My buddy used to have a badass N/A Gsr that ran consistant high 14's. He sold it to buy a 95 rsx type s. We wanted to see the difference between his new car and old. We did a highway run with it against another friends gsr (only mods are intake,exhaust). My another friend hopped in the passanger seat of the rsx (brett ways between 250-280 lbs) and they ran from a dig at about 40mph. The gsr ended up pulling on the rsx. My friend with the RSX was ready to commit suicide after that loss. Long story short, second run was without the passanger, and the rsx won.
Aussie
Zoom-Zoom
weight savings plays a critical role in vehicle performance. Less weight is easier to stop, lesser weight to transfer around corners for better handling, and of course will create an improvement in your power to weight ratio which will obviously make the car faster.
Take for instance a car with 200hp that weighs 2500lbs. That car will have a .08hp/lb ratio while a car with 200hp that weighs 2300 will have a .087hp/lb ratio. That may not seem like a lot but we're talking 10ths off your 1/4 mile time.
As for nitrous, laugh all you want but once again most of the cars your getting smoked by at the strip, if you ever go, are running nitrous.
Take for instance a car with 200hp that weighs 2500lbs. That car will have a .08hp/lb ratio while a car with 200hp that weighs 2300 will have a .087hp/lb ratio. That may not seem like a lot but we're talking 10ths off your 1/4 mile time.
As for nitrous, laugh all you want but once again most of the cars your getting smoked by at the strip, if you ever go, are running nitrous.