motor build for turbo. need info

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AlexD

J13 sooo mad
LOL @ me getting negged 3x by Aussie. You get proven wrong, and instead of providing legit information to back up the claims of yours, you refer to cheap sarcastic insults and neg repping me (dont worry I got you back man because thats what the nets all about, neg reps and positive reps).

Sweet moderator man.
 

Aussie

Zoom-Zoom
I didn't neg you 3x buddy so you should know what your talking about. You should also make sure that the op knows not all the oil pumps are the same. Only 96 and up.

There's my contribution. Btw you can Neg rep me all you want because you have a problem; I can also ban you for acting like a retard and talking crap for no reason.
 
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AlexD

J13 sooo mad
Your not having a debate, your being a know it all. I've put together enough honda motors to know what works, you have your one turbo build. I'm done with this thread.
I didn't neg you 3x buddy so you should know what your talking about. You should also make sure that the op knows not all the oil pumps are the same. Only 96 and up.

There's my contribution. Btw you can Neg rep me all you want because you have a problem; I can also ban you for acting like a retard and talking crap for no reason.
Yeah youre right, after 96 and up they are all the same, but if the OP was going to look up an ITR oil pump would he find one that was under the year 1996? Pretty sure any ITR released in the US was 97 and up (98 for sure)

Ban me if you want, I dont care, it just goes to show what kind of moderators they have here. You get someone that clash with your opinions and actually support theirs with legitimate answers and you end up shit talking me? Yeah thats pretty fair as well.

I invite you to come throw your 2 cents in on Prozons build thread on honda-tech

http://honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2948877

Im pretty sure everyone there could use a good laugh at reusing oem headstuds for their turbo builds as well.
 

Aussie

Zoom-Zoom
I havent trashed talked you one bit dude. You come in here telling me I don't know anything, starting making fun of people's photography skills, telling me idk shit, and more. Not one time have I told you your an idiot or dont know what your talking about. I don't need to come on here and stroke my dick for credibility. I've been building cars for more than 10 years. I've owned turbo'd hondas and many other brands. Everyone has an opinion, what you need is to learn how to accept others. And to clarify for the last time, I dIdnt tell the op to use the stock bolts. He asked if main studs are reusable and I said that all the bolts are reusable. So please stop putting words in my mouth.
 


Kuchtaboy

Unregistered User
Alex, man...

You really gadda calm down. If you're here to make friends, you're kind of doing it wrong. I know, and appreciate, that you have knowledge in everything relating to turbo'd hondas because you own, and built yours... But bro, good knowledge from a crappy source gets taken as crappy knowledge.

To really help out in a community you gadda work together and just get past that someone else could have a right answer. Sure, the crazy expensive, all new parts way to do it perfect works, but there's also cheaper ways of doing things that also work, and have worked.

We always welcome new guys who are here to play nice, but mods are also here to keep the peace which you've clearly disturbed a couple times with direct insults to myself, other mods, and other members of the site.


Seriously dawg, chill out.

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Prozon

Kris
Alex, Aussie, Kutch-
I think you guys should take this up somewhere else. No sense clogging up this kids thread any more. :\
 

AlexD

J13 sooo mad
I havent trashed talked you one bit dude. You come in here telling me I don't know anything, starting making fun of people's photography skills, telling me idk s***, and more. Not one time have I told you your an idiot or dont know what your talking about. I don't need to come on here and stroke my dick for credibility. I've been building cars for more than 10 years. I've owned turbo'd hondas and many other brands. Everyone has an opinion, what you need is to learn how to accept others. And to clarify for the last time, I dIdnt tell the op to use the stock bolts. He asked if main studs are reusable and I said that all the bolts are reusable. So please stop putting words in my mouth.
I like how you cant handle a little dispute on our forced induction outlooks.

The fact of the matter is, I present my case, clearly, with actual reason.

You present your case, cant back it up, and start talking s*** to me. I made fun of Kutchaboy because he came into the thread tossin s*** my way, so im not allowed to do it back?. Gimme a break. If youre a mod why dont you clean that s*** up, because isnt that what youre here for? Delete it and move on then, idrc

Alex, man...

You really gadda calm down. If you're here to make friends, you're kind of doing it wrong. I know, and appreciate, that you have knowledge in everything relating to turbo'd hondas because you own, and built yours... But bro, good knowledge from a crappy source gets taken as crappy knowledge.

To really help out in a community you gadda work together and just get past that someone else could have a right answer. Sure, the crazy expensive, all new parts way to do it perfect works, but there's also cheaper ways of doing things that also work, and have worked.

We always welcome new guys who are here to play nice, but mods are also here to keep the peace which you've clearly disturbed a couple times with direct insults to myself, other mods, and other members of the site.


Seriously dawg, chill out.

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Im chill man, im sitting back and laughing at how pathetic it is that a guy who has been "building motors for 10 years and owned several turbo hondas" cannot even back up a single claim hes made about how all these parts the OP is going to purchase isnt meant for a daily driver and the like.

Im not here to make friends, if it meant a choice between making friends and actually steering people here towards the right direction for forced induction, I would do the latter, because clearly there is a lack of such knowledge here.

Alex, Aussie, Kutch-
I think you guys should take this up somewhere else. No sense clogging up this kids thread any more. :\
I agree, if any of you boys clearly want to argue more of these facts, I am more than willing on another thread. Otherwise you can quit bumping until you can back your views up. Thats all I was askin to begin with.

Aussie, if you want to clean this thread up of all the talk, go for it man, it really isnt going to ruin my day. This thread has been entertaining for my friends and I to read while it stormed outside last night.
 

ssmokeyy

New Member
Ok thanks guys for your help not trying to make every one fight. Im one of those people that likes to know every little spec before i put a motor together. I understand that the type pump is the same and cost more because it says type r. The thing is i get huge discount because im a tech at a shop and acura gives as cost on all are parts we order from them. The biggest thing is i have enough money to do it right the first time but not 3 times over. Im not sure if i will use every thing the aem ems will have but i do know I hate getting something and have all ready maxed it out on what it can do. I will be going 81 since i can't do 2k just to sleeve a block. I live in spokane wa and tuners and machine shops are not that great here from what i have seen. I have never seen so many honda blow up so often till i moved here and thats my biggest worry and the reason im trying to make this shit soo strong. I used to build hondas all the time about 5 years ago and never had problem like that. By the way dose any one know how much golden eagle charges for doing sleeve it says you have to call but im just wondering how bad it will cost i know machine shops here want a lot. Im haven to port and polish my head because no machine shop wants to do it. And one that would wanted 800 to just port and polish. The trubo that im looking at is the 5431E CEA (54mm inducer) - 500hp because of the fast spool it has and the billet parts make it nice also. It says it dose 500 hp i talk to xenocron and they also think it will work the best for what i want. they also say im asking a lot out of any turbo for the fact i want it to spool at 3500 and stay till 8500 and they say it will be close to 3500 for full spool and probly drop around 8000 witch ok im fine with. My biggest thing is street and auto x. I hate drag racing it puts me to sleep and every one here only drags. Thanks again for all the help and I under stand every sees building in many ways and thats the kinda stuff i love no one should have to build there motor the same as any one else but lets try not to fight over it.
 

AlexD

J13 sooo mad
Aussie has made claims that every bolt is reusable in a honda. I agree, however I do not suggest the reuse of stock head studs because they stretch, he doesnt seem to agree.

Aussie also believes that forged internals and a built head are not meant for a daily driver. I disagree.

Aussie also claims Manley rods are overkill for his setup. I disagree.

Aussie says the OP's car is not boosted. Apparently did not read the thread title.

As soon as someone with more knowledge of a topic as him appears and proves him wrong, he resorts to sarcasm, neg repping, threatening to ban me for my views and how they clash with his because im being some sort of asshole about it, and making fun of kutchaboy who for whatever reason, decided to pop in this thread, throw a jab at me (while all the while not contributing to the topic at hand).

Did I cover everything? LOL

no hard feelings though guys I expect it
 
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AlexD

J13 sooo mad
Ok thanks guys for your help not trying to make every one fight. Im one of those people that likes to know every little spec before i put a motor together. I understand that the type pump is the same and cost more because it says type r. The thing is i get huge discount because im a tech at a shop and acura gives as cost on all are parts we order from them. The biggest thing is i have enough money to do it right the first time but not 3 times over. Im not sure if i will use every thing the aem ems will have but i do know I hate getting something and have all ready maxed it out on what it can do. I will be going 81 since i can't do 2k just to sleeve a block. I live in spokane wa and tuners and machine shops are not that great here from what i have seen. I have never seen so many honda blow up so often till i moved here and thats my biggest worry and the reason im trying to make this s*** soo strong. I used to build hondas all the time about 5 years ago and never had problem like that. By the way dose any one know how much golden eagle charges for doing sleeve it says you have to call but im just wondering how bad it will cost i know machine shops here want a lot. Im haven to port and polish my head because no machine shop wants to do it. And one that would wanted 800 to just port and polish. The trubo that im looking at is the 5431E CEA (54mm inducer) - 500hp because of the fast spool it has and the billet parts make it nice also. It says it dose 500 hp i talk to xenocron and they also think it will work the best for what i want. they also say im asking a lot out of any turbo for the fact i want it to spool at 3500 and stay till 8500 and they say it will be close to 3500 for full spool and probly drop around 8000 witch ok im fine with. My biggest thing is street and auto x. I hate drag racing it puts me to sleep and every one here only drags. Thanks again for all the help and I under stand every sees building in many ways and thats the kinda stuff i love no one should have to build there motor the same as any one else but lets try not to fight over it.
My buddy just got his block back from golden eagle. The price people say which is around 1k is for the sleeves installed. My friend payed about $1200 for all the machine work with the sleeves. And that would be ready for piston installation etc.
 

Tam4511

CI BOOST FIEND
Aussie has made claims that every bolt is reusable in a honda. I agree, however I do not suggest the reuse of stock head studs because they stretch, he doesnt seem to agree.

Aussie also believes that forged internals and a built head are not meant for a daily driver. I disagree.

Aussie also claims Manley rods are overkill for his setup. I disagree.

Aussie says the OP's car is not boosted. Apparently did not read the thread title.

As soon as someone with more knowledge of a topic as him appears and proves him wrong, he resorts to sarcasm, neg repping, threatening to ban me for my views and how they clash with his because im being some sort of asshole about it, and making fun of kutchaboy who for whatever reason, decided to pop in this thread, throw a jab at me (while all the while not contributing to the topic at hand).

Did I cover everything? LOL

no hard feelings though guys I expect it
:rolf:
rods are actually usually underestimated, eagle rods are only rated to 250hp but they can handle more.
 

ssmokeyy

New Member
I sent out a couple emails to golden eagle and couple other places. I have a s80 lsd from jdm type r cost me 1800 shipped to my door about 3 years ago and im wondering for this build should i put a new lsd in her or is the honda lsd going to take this beating? Its from password jdm for not ebay here.
 

patrick4588

Integra God
I used ARP head and main studs. They aren't that expensive, might as well just get them. CP pistons and Eagle Rods on stock sleeves are plenty for what you need, and you will have room to turn the boost up when you get bored. Do not get a godspeed kit, they are trash. Do it right, or dont do it. SpoolinPerformance, Full Race, Peakboost, are all great companies to get kits from. I would suggest getting AT LEAST a t3/60-1 turbo with the big AR housing and 4" inlet. That will still spool relatively quick for a street setup, but you can make a good amount of power on it. Stock fuel rail is fine.
You need to get a new fuel pump as well. Walbro 255lph will do fine. What are you doing for exhaust? 3" turboback would be best.
 
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