Hondata s300

[jdmtegg]

already have the OBD1

 

[Tam4511]

until you start moving a considerable more amount of air and fuel into your motor there is no need for a tune, your stock ecu can compensate for the mild changes caused by bolt-ons, just reset you ecu and it will reprogram itself to run best with the mods you have.

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

buy the s300 down the road its a waste of money for you right now, since its a 500$ computer, you need an obd1 vtec ecu, a jumper harness and a dyno tune for it to even work. Your car is stock still.

Wrong on alot of accounts. 1. If you look around you can find it for less then PWJDM wants, they are over priced on everything 2. You don't need a vtec ecu, you can get a non vtec obd1 ecu converted for much less (p06). 3. You do not need a dyno tune, they have settings in programming that allows you to set it up as a stock ecu. 4. You could have it street tuned and pick up some power on even a stock motor, you think Honda tunes these for maximum performance from the factory?

I am gonna guess you dont have Hondata and have never used it? With that said, if I could do it all over I would probablly go with ectune. Reasons being its 65 bucks compared to 4-500. My buddy is an authorized tuner and dealer of ectune so I have someone familiar with it.

I am not a tuner by any means, but even I was able to set my hondata up to run a B20, stock GSR and my built GSR..of course the built GSR was then street tuned by my buddy right afterwards. I took it from my CRX that had turbo b20 in it and put it into my stock GSR, seleteced stock GSR map, uploaded it into the ecu and boom car ran like a stock car.

Also crome and s100 are so outdated that youll play hell finding someone to tune it. I don't know anyone here around me that will even touch it. As for running a chipped ecu, good luck. Most "chips" just dump tons of fuel into the car and give you a redline higher then youll ever make power with. But hey not my car and i'm sure there are more informed people on here then me...

 

[IntegraLS-T]

Wrong on alot of accounts. 1. If you look around you can find it for less then PWJDM wants, they are over priced on everything 2. You don't need a vtec ecu, you can get a non vtec obd1 ecu converted for much less (p06). 3. You do not need a dyno tune, they have settings in programming that allows you to set it up as a stock ecu. 4. You could have it street tuned and pick up some power on even a stock motor, you think Honda tunes these for maximum performance from the factory?

I am gonna guess you dont have Hondata and have never used it? With that said, if I could do it all over I would probablly go with ectune. Reasons being its 65 bucks compared to 4-500. My buddy is an authorized tuner and dealer of ectune so I have someone familiar with it.

I am not a tuner by any means, but even I was able to set my hondata up to run a B20, stock GSR and my built GSR..of course the built GSR was then street tuned by my buddy right afterwards. I took it from my CRX that had turbo b20 in it and put it into my stock GSR, seleteced stock GSR map, uploaded it into the ecu and boom car ran like a stock car.

Also crome and s100 are so outdated that youll play hell finding someone to tune it. I don't know anyone here around me that will even touch it. As for running a chipped ecu, good luck. Most "chips" just dump tons of fuel into the car and give you a redline higher then youll ever make power with. But hey not my car and i'm sure there are more informed people on here then me...

Listen to this guy, spend $400 or $500 on hondata, then don't get it tuned, just upload a stock map, then you have spent $400 or $500 for your car to run just the way it does now... :crazy:

Spend the money on something else, like it was said before wait till you have a need for the hondata or ectune or crome or whatever.

 

[jdmtegg]

so my best luck to do is the ectune or crome?

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Listen to this guy, spend $400 or $500 on hondata, then don't get it tuned, just upload a stock map, then you have spent $400 or $500 for your car to run just the way it does now... :crazy:

Spend the money on something else, like it was said before wait till you have a need for the hondata or ectune or crome or whatever.

That is nothing like what I posted. I simply said Hondata doesn't require a dyno tune for it to work, as the guy above me was stating. Maybe you should take a reading course so you can brush up on the fundementals. I do believe I also said that if I could do it again I would go ectune which is 65bucks! Therefore telling the OP that Hondata is over priced and there are cheaper alternatives that work just as well. I do believe I also stated that you could get a tuning program and have your stock car tuned to either pick up power or even fuel mileage depending on what you want to do. That has nothing to do with spending 500 bucks and not having the car tuned. Llisten to this guy though, he sure seems to know what he's talking about:roll:

 

[IntegraLS-T]

Llisten to this guy though, he sure seems to know what he's talking about:roll:

Thats the only good advice you have given thanks.

I never said thats what you posted, I was simply putting it all together. I can read great thanks. I never said you were wrong, hondata doesn't require a dyno tune, but the thing is that without paying someone who knows what they are doing to do a street tune or dyno tune your not going to see any improvement in power, gas mileage or anything, especially with the limited mods he has done to the car, and you wont "see" any difference on his car without a dyno because of how small that difference would be at this point. So without a "tune", which would cost more than $65 he is looking at spending money on something that will make his car run and perform just like it does now. Even with ectune, he will need a jumper harness, a chipped obd1 ecu, if he is going to set it up himself like you said he can, he will need a demon, or other emulator supported by ectune, he's going to need a laptop if he plans to data-log when driving, a wide-band if he wants to make meaning full changes, and the ability to run the software. So $500 for everything is being generous, all to make little to no power with his current setup. Unless he has a dealer looking to make no money for his time put into tuning the car I don't know how he would get ectune for $65, but after you add jumper harness and a chipped ecu it's still not $65.

Currently there is no need for an engine management system of any kind, no matter the cost. Unless your just looking to burn up some money for little to no gains spend the money elsewhere. All the info thats needed has been posted in this thread, there will be no reason to post here anymore, other than to argue with someone who clearly disagrees, so OP if you have any other questions you can PM me. But don't listen to me, I'm sure I don't know what I'm talking about. :shock: Listen to this guy instead.....

I am not a tuner by any means

JSH

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Yup your right lmfao, arguing with idiots on here is beginning to get old. Your reading skills really suck, I never said you could set up ECtune by yourself for starters, I said you could set up Hondata. I stated that the ectune program its self is 65 bucks which is far less then the price of Hondata. I was also stating that if I had to do it over I would've went that route, never said that was the best route for everyone. I have access to a dealer/tuner of ectune so I wouldn't need the ostrich or demon.

The OP has already stated he has an obd1 ecu. He also stated that he's torn if he wants to build boost or all motor, that to me sounds like he will need fuel management at some point regardless. If he wanted to go Hondata he could buy it now and still drive his car even with it in there, if he wanted to wait and go ectune and save some money then that is an option as well...so please take the time to read before posting next time.

 

[dekaf]

Is the obd i ecu in the gsr or is that something completely different that isnt even in our cars from factory?

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Is the obd i ecu in the gsr or is that something completely different that isnt even in our cars from factory?

obd1= cars made from 92-95
obd2- cars made 96+

If you have a car made after 95, i.e a 96 GSR then converting to obd1 is what LS-T is referring to as "needing an obd1 ecu and jumper harness". However if you have a 92-95 model year, then that doesn't apply to you.

 

[JDMb20DC2]

Even with a chipped ECU your not doing much beside raising the rev limiter and setting up a launch control (IMO aren't needed for stock or bolt on motors) or allowing more fuel but with a stock TB and intake it won't do to much

 

[rwlsvtec_03]

aem wideband + hondata s300.

 

[jdmtegg]

ok dont more research & all i would need is to get a conversion harness and s300 yes
harness is like 50-80 bucks
im just sayin, once i get s300 in, everything starts coming together nicely and ill starting seeing actual power from my add ons
add ons without a tune do nearly nothing.

 

[rwlsvtec_03]

ok dont more research & all i would need is to get a conversion harness and s300 yes
harness is like 50-80 bucks
im just sayin, once i get s300 in, everything starts coming together nicely and ill starting seeing actual power from my add ons
add ons without a tune do nearly nothing.

I'm sure if you look in the "for sale" section here on Ci you can find a conversion harness for less.
Hondata is very user friendly but i would suggest picking up a aem wideband so once you start getting more power and messing with air and fuel levels, you can adjust when needed through hondata.

 

[dekaf]

ok dont more research & all i would need is to get a conversion harness and s300 yes
harness is like 50-80 bucks
im just sayin, once i get s300 in, everything starts coming together nicely and ill starting seeing actual power from my add ons
add ons without a tune do nearly nothing.

Dyno tune is just to fine tune your cars performnance, air fuel, blah blah blah etc etc
It can still run with basic bolts on and what not but you won't be getting the maximum performance out of your aftermarket parts. only time i think you need s3000 is when your starting to tune things internally thats my opinion though.
I would never spend 500+ dollars on s3000, harness, software, etc for basic bolts on.