Getting 2nd B18B, what should I do to it?

g3teg97

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I say it depends on what you plan on doing with the car.

Boost will make it unreiable and so will N/A. If you plan on AutoX or road racing, N/A. Straight lines, drag racing = turbo.

Oh and it also depends on what your budget is and your power goals.
 

obd1kenobi

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Auto X is my goal gains I'm looking @ 180-200hp at the wheels, and I know thats going to be alot of work for an NA LS!
 


Aussie

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200Whp out of an ls isn't that hard. There are tons of four bangers pushing out 200 na whp out there. I feel like alot of people think a honda motor without vtec has no potential without putting a turbo on it. Its a 1.8 liter block. Raise the compression bore it out if you want more torque. get some proper cams and a good port job and some itbs and 200na whp is easily attainable.
 


obd1kenobi

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Aussie said:
200Whp out of an ls isn't that hard. There are tons of four bangers pushing out 200 na whp out there. I feel like alot of people think a honda motor without vtec has no potential without putting a turbo on it. Its a 1.8 liter block. Raise the compression bore it out if you want more torque. get some proper cams and a good port job and some itbs and 200na whp is easily attainable.
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yeah dude there is nothing easy about that lol! Yeah I highs I've seen and L/S is like 179hp to that wheels fully built and streetable. I would be point less to put that much into that motor driving it around daily. I'd be fixing shit every other day!
 

g3teg97

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I'd give you more props for building a N/A with that power, rather than just slapping a turbo kit on it.
 

obd1kenobi

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^^^ Yeah but N/A LS's arent cheap to build, there's no easy was around in with Ls/vtec which I will not do!
 

Aussie

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Building a naturally aspirated 1.8l is just like building any N/A 1.8L whether it's a honda, nissan, toyota, mitsu or anything else, its a 1.8L. No there is no VTEC there but there hasn't always been vtec. I've built an old nissan sentra sr20 to put down 217whp 170wtq. completly streetable. Yes its a 2.0L so what, I'm just tryin to give an example. But 200whp would not be that hard to produce. All I'm saying is that with a proper tune and high compression, larger bore and proper cam sizing and timing 200 would not be a hard number to achieve. I'm hoping to get over 250whp out of my build with only 11.5:1 compression. Also if you've heard of endyn, (they build sick ass honda motors!) there's a guy with one of there 2.0 stroker honda blocks pushing out 300+whp on pump gas, no vtec, and it's an everyday driver. I'll try to post a link up.
 

Aussie

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g3teg97 said:
I'd give you more props for building a N/A with that power, rather than just slapping a turbo kit on it.
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I agree, much more props are given to high hp N/A apps, but they can be pricey. If you have the time go for N/A, but if you want big quick cheap hp numbers that a turbo is probablly the way to go.
 

obd1kenobi

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Aussie said:
I've built an old nissan sentra sr20 to put down 217whp 170wtq. completly streetable. Yes its a 2.0L so what, I'm just tryin to give an example. But 200whp would not be that hard to produce.

I'm hoping to get over 250whp out of my build with only 11.5:1 compression.

Also if you've heard of endyn, (they build sick ass honda motors!) there's a guy with one of there 2.0 stroker honda blocks pushing out 300+whp on pump gas, no vtec, and it's an everyday driver. I'll try to post a link up.
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Dude you cant compair the Sr20 to the L/s Motor, yes they are both four cylinder, but the Sr20 is a Performance more, and it does have Varible Valve Timing, so yeah getting 200 plus is not hard with a Sr20.

You got A GSR right, yeah getting 250 is isnt that hard but it isnt easy, Which is my point its not EASY to get 200 out of an L/S.

An that 300+ non vtec, yeah dude thats something I have got to see, I cant believe that they did that without Boost or Nitrous, and if they did what was the cost to do it, will I have access to the same resources they do.

Once again my Statment was "Its not easy to get 200 out an ls"
 

Aussie

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obd1kenobi said:
Dude you cant compair the Sr20 to the L/s Motor, yes they are both four cylinder, but the Sr20 is a Performance more, and it does have Varible Valve Timing, so yeah getting 200 plus is not hard with a Sr20.

You got A GSR right, yeah getting 250 is isnt that hard but it isnt easy, Which is my point its not EASY to get 200 out of an L/S.

An that 300+ non vtec, yeah dude thats something I have got to see, I cant believe that they did that without Boost or Nitrous, and if they did what was the cost to do it, will I have access to the same resources they do.

Once again my Statment was "Its not easy to get 200 out an ls"
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Yea...right, the old sr20motors didn't have VVT and what the hell is a performance motor. A motor is a motor, any motor can be a performance motor, so a D series with 200 hp is a performance motor. No the 300+ motor I'm sure wasn't cheap and I'm sure you won't have the resources but you said that the most you've seen was like 180 out of a fully built motor and that is ridiculous.
 
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