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Cheesenip

I <3 2.4l's
but i you use a bottle to win a race, you a pussy to me, and loose all my respect. and BTW, Turbo is cheaper. you can spend about $1500 on a good turbo kit and some stuff to have it run decent an put down 200 hp alot cheaper than a n/a build
 

adnmoh1

New Member
unless it was an s2000 yeah, love turbo. BUT Im going the NA route. I want hp but I hate to lower the compression down to 9:1 just for a turbo app. I was looking at OE specs for type-r that has 11:1 with 197hp. Maybe something with a basic tune to get me to around 220hp @ crank and 200hp at wheels. Im more for balance also. Which is why I am having a rough time deciding what type of suspension setup/ wheel combo and clutch will work with the hp goal i set myself up for.


Suspension side: Tein "flex", VIP, Basic, or High tech all coilovers

Then add in rear cross members, new struts, and probably new axles.


Wheel: either 15x 8, 15x 9, or 16x 8 with a proposed tire package of 205/55/x

clutch: basic OE, an ACT street, Exedy, or Ogura.



I have already a short throw shifter from skunk2, full catback skunk2, hks super filter (but changing that to ARC induction box), just basic stuff for now. It has the OE clutch after almost 9 years so something is good.


I use lucas for tran fluid, and castrol for engine. with a vtec engagement @ 6000 rpms. redline @8100 rpms. no dyno has been done, but expect current hp @ 160 ish.
 
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gmetalintegra

New Member
looks nice man but there right N/A will be expensive for what youll get outta it, build and boost!!
 


Kuchtaboy

Unregistered User
adnmoh1 said:
I have already a short throw shifter from skunk2, full catback skunk2, hks super filter (but changing that to ARC induction box), just basic stuff for now. It has the OE clutch after almost 9 years so something is good.


I use lucas for tran fluid, and castrol for engine. with a vtec engagement @ 6000 rpms. redline @8100 rpms. no dyno has been done, but expect current hp @ 160 ish.
Doesn't it come with 170 stock...? not saying a exhaust and intake will do you much good for noticeable hp gains, but I don't think you'd lose 10. lol
 


adnmoh1

New Member
Kuchtaboy said:
Doesn't it come with 170 stock...? not saying a exhaust and intake will do you much good for noticeable hp gains, but I don't think you'd lose 10. lol
you have to account for age, wear and tear, and basic sludge build up on the internals.
valve springs, rods, and pistons will have to be re honed and a full port and polish for everything in the block before i can claim 176hp stock hp.

It is pretty fast for 160, Ive taken it to 135 on i355, and have beaten several cars in the 200-240hp range (of course there were alot heavier pontiac grand prix v6/ ford 5.0 auto:lol: ).

I love most of all is this noise it makes when vtec engagement. just love it.


one thing i hate with this car it only takes Shell Premium. I have literally tried every other high quality gasoline and every time I get signals and check engines lights. Ive been only allowed to use Shell because of it. A Honda-tech guy said Shell is the top of line for most Japanese imports because it keps the internals clean. So I know there is actually very minimal wear and tear due to sludge and friction.
 
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bottlejunkie

New Member
Cheesenip said:
but i you use a bottle to win a race, you a pussy to me, and loose all my respect.
ah man, why is that??? HP is HP, no matter how you get it, i mean, its cheaper, yeah, and easier, yeah, but doesnt make you a pussy for winning using it. its the same as any other power adder, does what its supposed to do.

that hurts my feelings :(
 

Cheesenip

I <3 2.4l's
it wasnt aimed at you. I only repect a guy who takes the time, and money to make his car fast. Instead of a $600 part than only makes you fast for few sec. I mean if your bottle is empty, your slow again. Unlike with a turbo or supercharer, or built motor, you can east any time of the day 24/7 365 w/o makin a stop for the go fast juice. NOS is gay IMO
 

bottlejunkie

New Member
Cheesenip said:
it wasnt aimed at you. I only repect a guy who takes the time, and money to make his car fast. Instead of a $600 part than only makes you fast for few sec. I mean if your bottle is empty, your slow again. Unlike with a turbo or supercharer, or built motor, you can east any time of the day 24/7 365 w/o makin a stop for the go fast juice. NOS is gay IMO
so if i boosted a car for $600 (tuned and all) and made less power, had more problems, and wasnt able to pass smog you would respect me more???

what about the guy that does a full nitrous built??? or the daily driven DA that gets 30 mpg, then at the flip of a switch can walk most domestic V8s??? you dont respect that??? sorry, but i just dont agree.

i mean, i have more respect for someone that can bolt on an exhaust than someone that buys a factory boosted car (oh that wasnt aimed at you) j/k J/K. i see what you mean, but damn, i have never personally raced more than 15 sec. at a time, so how is spraying a pussy way out???

by the way, i only spend like $450 on spray, not $600 geez.

HP is HP, nomatter how its gained, as long as the OWNER/installer (should be the same person) has an understanding of HOW it works, and WHY it works, and it WORKS for them.

there shouldnt be a price tag on respect, a cam swap will usually run $600-700 if upgrading the valvetrain, yet it will usually only net 10-15whp at most, so you respect someone that can slap cams in more than someone that can do a full build, plumb, wire, and program a nitrous setup, then tune it to be used safely weekend after weekend after weekend???? just dont make sense to me.

and yes, i use NITROUS to win races, just the same as you use your turbocharger. if i were building a street racer i would have no doubt went boost again.
 
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adnmoh1

New Member
I have no use use for NAAAWWWWWWSSSS. I want consistent hp gains at low mid and high rpm range all the time. I am an SCCA fan so for me just going in a straight line is really boring. Nitrous cannot suffice for any type of endurance lap, nor can it suffice for consistent hp with heavy modifications to the internals much like a N/A setup. Id cook my engine raw before Id even finish the race.

The power that nitrous offers has to be controlled to a degree that I dont cause detonation. That would mean bulding a strong internal to hold up to 300 to 400 hp with out detonation. Im only looking for 200, which can be attained through good choices on internals.


Which is why I thank you all for atleast helping me with suggestions, and feedback. But please I need more suggestions and pick the best from each and everyones suggestion.
 

Cheesenip

I <3 2.4l's
like i said b4, i dont care what u do for nitrous, its gay, its a temp power adder you have t go to the shop to refill. Gay
 

JimmyRos.

07 BMW 328Xi
stop incorperating the word "gay" in all your comments. 8urcivic might get offended. :roll:

my objective is to piss him off. :)
 
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