01 gsr 250 whp

acclude

cheap bastard
If you get it to kick out 250hp it won't be any more reliable than a turbo motor (a LOT LESS room for error and much tighter clearances) and you won't be able to use it a a daily driver (won't idle properly, will get terrible gas mileage, and most definitely won't pass any kind of inspection/emission test your state has). Just trying to get you set straight on that beofre wasting your money on a build like this and then expect to drive it daily.
 

dc2b18

Wait... What?
jdm jon said:
not to derive you from your N/A build but...for the money you spend on a slammin all motor build....you could have achieved a higher goal of hrsp with a turbo....though the reliablility wouldnt be as garenteed as N/A..

my boy used to daily his ITR at 26psi,dynoed around 500whp built/tuned by J.Evans, car was dailied at 17psi....after he got tired of this set up...dont ask me how...lol, he wanted to go N/A, now crankin out around 230hrsp on his ITR, ctr pistons, some retarded big lobed buddy club clams that can barely hold n idle, with head package to go with it..his plans are to track the car on few local road courses....but its his DD:roll:

he old me the N/A build was almost as much as the turbo set up minus the Evans tuning.
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I would have to disagree with the reliability statement. I am almost positive that he could achieve a higher hp goal for the same amount of money and better reliability as opposed to an n/a build. For example, it's much cheaper to make 250whp with f/i as opposed to n/a. It would be more reliable and you would have much more room for bigger hp when the need arises. :)
 

JDMxDB8

Raceline USA
JhDc2itr said:
yea i thought i read it somewhere saying that you need to but i didnt.. well i dont know if the dude did it or not. i have a skunk2 pro cam and a regular gsr pistons? lol i ddint touch the pistons yet, 2.5 exhaust, man wont that be too big? since i need to drop it...sometime soon.. and hytech replica is a good header, but i need something to that'll pass inspection and i dont have the right equipments to lift the car my car up and do it myself so i dont want to waste $$ on labor lol well looking for a comptech :D 4-1 but they're mad expensive tho :/
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You definitely need to get some high compression pistons. A Comptech header isn't good enough for your power goals.
 


Aussie

Zoom-Zoom
acclude said:
If you get it to kick out 250hp it won't be any more reliable than a turbo motor (a LOT LESS room for error and much tighter clearances) and you won't be able to use it a a daily driver (won't idle properly, will get terrible gas mileage, and most definitely won't pass any kind of inspection/emission test your state has). Just trying to get you set straight on that beofre wasting your money on a build like this and then expect to drive it daily.
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My stroked B17 idles fine and will easily push over 250hp with a few exhaust and intake changes. It also drives very nice and gets better gas milage then my stock MS3 if driven nice.
 

JDMxDB8

Raceline USA
Aussie said:
My stroked B17 idles fine and will easily push over 250hp with a few exhaust and intake changes. It also drives very nice and gets better gas milage then my stock MS3 if driven nice.
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I believe that. I know this guy who drives a turbocharged AP2 and he gets close to 40 MPG if he doesn't smash it all the time. Gas mileage is all up to the driver.
 


Aussie

Zoom-Zoom
Honestly I think If I flog the shit out of both of them for an entire tank, the MS3 will run out first.
 

acclude

cheap bastard
Aussie said:
My stroked B17 idles fine and will easily push over 250hp with a few exhaust and intake changes. It also drives very nice and gets better gas milage then my stock MS3 if driven nice.
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I'm not calling you a liar so don't take it that way, but I have seen, built and riden in several high HP NA builds. The VTEC ones seem to have less idle issues for obvious reasons, but all the non-VTEC builds all seem to have to idle above 1k and closer to 1.5k RPM or they jsut sound like a nasty loping V8. lol Don't know the specs on your motor or the one he plans to build but after a certain point, more power comes with certain sacrifices.
 

TeggyBear_Ls

90 EF LS/V 95 DC4
patrick4588 said:
if you want power and emissions complaint, look to the greddy or edelbrock turbo kits
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x2. That's about as fast as you'll get on "street legal" power upgrades.

Even the cams, hy-tech replica header, pistons and stuff aren't going to be "CARB" legal.
 

JhDc2itr

cheesesteaks..yummy :)
crappp, i agreeed with the k series in and call it a day soo much easier lol, i mean gas mileage doesnt really matter to me it jus the inspection thats the problem.. or i can fully built this engine then when the inspection come, i'll jus drop like a b16 or something in, then after inspection i'll jus redo the whole thing! genius!!!!!! not -.- poopie wow i didnt know that 250whp was that much on integra.. well that make me rethink, i just want something fast that can take out a stock rsx-s, celica gts, eclipse gst, etc... (dont ask me where i got those cars from) lol
 

TeggyBear_Ls

90 EF LS/V 95 DC4
JhDc2itr said:
crappp, i agreeed with the k series in and call it a day soo much easier lol, i mean gas mileage doesnt really matter to me it jus the inspection thats the problem.. or i can fully built this engine then when the inspection come, i'll jus drop like a b16 or something in, then after inspection i'll jus redo the whole thing! genius!!!!!! not -.- poopie wow i didnt know that 250whp was that much on integra.. well that make me rethink, i just want something fast that can take out a stock rsx-s, celica gts, eclipse gst, etc... (dont ask me where i got those cars from) lol
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Trust me, the K swap isn't anywhere near easy.

And yeah don't get a B16. Just save up and buy another GSR B18 and then swap it for the built motor before your inspection.

If you've got cams, I/H/E, you should be beating those cars already.....
 
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