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[mteg]

Keep it under 8psi and you will be fine. $400 isn't a lot of money for the kit. I would be cautious about buying it. A good intercoolerand piping will cost more than that. Is the kit on a car right now? Or, is it a bunch of pieces in a box. I've heard horror story's of guys buying kits and trying to make them work-ones they got off ebay real cheap-supposed full kits. If your dead set on getting a turbo, make sure you do some research on the kit or just buy one like greddy or turbonetics-where you know everythings going to be good. This is going to runn you around $2000 on up, but hp ain't cheap. If you don't want to invest that much money, look other places for hp. Superchargers work better on automatics, so down n2o. Just avoid those cheap $300 ebay electirc superchargers.

 

[Messiah62]

i gotta talk to the guy more, im pretty sure its on his car right now or he just took it off. its not an ebay one tho. how much hp you think i would gain from 5-6psi. if i got the turbo what else would be needed, would i have to buy anything else

 

[mteg]

I'm not sure. I know that the turbonetics kit puts out 225 crank hp on an ls with 8psi boost, so your'e looking at around 195-210 crank hp only running 5-6psi. Thats probably around 165-75 whp. Just make sure you get a good fmu. You can only do so much with the safc's.

 

[Messiah62]

just lost me on the fmu safc stuff

 

[mteg]

You need to get a fuel management unit for your car for the turbo. Unfortunately automatics don't have the same support that 5-speeds do. A lot of people try to tune turbo's using a fuel pressure regulator and a Apexi safc. The problem with doing this is that you can oly tune the fuel to run at a constant flow. either you run a little rich on the low end and even mixture at full boost or perfect low end and leaning out at full boost. Lean will kill your motor but running rich isn't good either. Greddy and turbonetics both come with fmu's (fuel management units). You still need tuning done but these will give you a good base map. If your only going to run 5-6psi you could probably get away with using a fuel pressure reg and an safc-unfortunately like everyone else that adds boost or spray-you will get bored and want to turn it up. It's just human nature. Have you explored other options such as the jrsc-jackson racing supercharger or a n2o kit? A nitrous kit in your teg is going to give you the same or more hp than the setup your looking at-will cost the same price-probabloy be a lot safer in the long run-and a lot easier to install and tune. I know the jrsc will give you about 160whp. A 50 shot will give you around 140-50whp in a relatively stock teg. A 75 shot will get you up to 175+ whp. Just food for thought.

 

[Messiah62]

just talked to the guy it is a new greddy kit, the guys friend works there

 

[Messiah62]

ya but how much does it cost to fill up your nos tank everytime you want to use it

 

[dc2GS-R]

SAFC has limitations that I wouldn't like to push on stock internals. The SAFC intercepts the MAP sensor signal and modifies it to trick your computer to deliver more fuel. By modifying the portion of the tuning maps it is using, it alters the ignition timing as well. Eventually you end up chasing your tail to try to get the right fuel out of the SAFC and and trying to keep the ignition timing out of whack. Using larger injectors and tuning with an SAFC, you will have to reduce your fuel enrichment over stock to compensate for the larger injectors, which will cause the ECU to use more advanced ignition timing which isn't exactly safe or precise.

^^^

 

[GSROWNSU]

*sigh* i wish guys would just use their heads sometimes about the ssac kits...there's a reason why they are only 400-800 bucks...you gotta pay to play with forced induction. At least to keep playing :lol: I've spent over 2000 on my setup and it's still not complete..but when it is i'll know everything will last and work to perfection.

 

[dc2GS-R]

Research and questions are free and most people don't take advantage of it like they should. I bet your's will come out alright

How are those coilovers treating you?

 

[GSROWNSU]

Research and questions are free and most people don't take advantage of it like they should. I bet your's will come out alright

How are those coilovers treating you?

pretty good man..yea i have pretty much everything minus the wastegate, manifold, and downpipe..everything else i have in my possession. It's hard when your going to school, paying for rent, and trying to buy turbo parts all at the same time Should be done by spring though! Shooting for 300-325 ish whp

 

[dc2GS-R]

I did the same thing when I bought my first car......trying to scrap money together to buy intercooler piping, BOV, exhaust.....etc. LOL It will come together if you're patient. Mine has been coming together for 8 yrs or so.

It won't take that long to do the B18c1 N/A build though. I can afford it now....just taking my time to make good, well thought out decisions

PS. 320whp with good suspension and sticky tires will be a badass

 

[mteg]

ya but how much does it cost to fill up your nos tank everytime you want to use it

$30-$35

 

[mattrt09]

skip boost

go ls/vtec and get all bolt ons possible such as header, cat-back, intake,underdrive pulley, and either get you throttle body ported or buy a ported one. (i had mine ported, dyno'd before and after and gained 6whp)

but get all of that and you'l be good

then after all that just start putting money aside for a turbo build if you still want to do it and it will perform really well

but if you just build it NA you dont have to worry about tranny problems AS MUCH. it will still blow if your hard on it. but i still would get it rebuilt like speedin says

 

[patrick4588]

ok first off, everyone stop telling him what PSI he can and cant run. psi doesnt mean anything. 15 psi on one turbo is not the the same as 15 on another. you need to go by whp. GT35R flows a hell of a lot more air than a 16G if they both are at 10psi. second, dont boost an auto. thats retarted. third, if you ever spend 400 dollars a turbo kit, dont expect good results.