Turbo Recommended?

BoostedITR41

New Member
you need all the stuff that comes with the drag kit. the drag turbo is good for 400whp maxed out but the manifold causes creep at higher boost levels. I would look for a Rev-hard kit if you want a kit. and go with hondata from the start cause it will save you lots of headaches and money down the road
 

JDMAmbition

New Member
here is a picture of the 3rd gen drag kit with a FMU setup which that i'm still deciding on buying: http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid158/p76870dcceac070f829e0a074c99df899/f5155c70.jpg

The engine bay looks a lil harsh. It's been through 3 owners and the second owner turbo charged it. The third owner ragged it quite a bit. The car had srp pistons and the compression was dropped to 8.5:1.

Help me out guys. Do you think this setup is worth paying $1500CAD?
 

speedin

The Transporter
$1500, i guess as long its all in working order. but as far as needing a big brake kit........ na, cant hurt but u dont NEED it. and yes hondata is something u should get. and as far as rev-hard....... i like drag kits.
 

ForceFed

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Black94LS said:
put stronger internals in first, lower the compression a bit and put the strongest you can find in there, itll last longer.
the LS block is already strong enough to turbo it. the LS block already has a low enough compression. my advise would be to invest in a hybrid, then get the sucker dyno tuned at a professional shop. T04 would be too large for your engine, you would get way too much turbo surge.
 


BoostedITR41

New Member
ForceFed said:
the LS block is already strong enough to turbo it. the LS block already has a low enough compression. my advise would be to invest in a hybrid, then get the sucker dyno tuned at a professional shop. T04 would be too large for your engine, you would get way too much turbo surge.
WTF is turbo surge?

a straight T4 is way too big.
 

siscoke

New Member
turbo surge = turbo lag i presume. and for the guys who dont know what that is either:
turbo lag: the time ur turbo needs to spool up and give the boost to ur car. so if u floor it a big turbo will need more time to spool and fill the turbo with the apropriate amount of pressure to give u the HP gain. a smaller turbo is filled faster so itll give u faster respons on ur actions (flooring) but has a lower max hp output because its presure is lower also cause it cant move enough air at any given time.

greetz sis
 

Chuckie Finster

New Member
Slight correction, bro.

Turbo lag is the time it takes from when the pedal hits the floor to the time the car is back on boost. If a turbo motor is making full boost at 4000 rpm and you were to let off the gas completely then floor it again, "turbo lag" is the time it takes for that turbo to get back up to speed to make boost again. There's a slight hesitation at the lower revs on moderate to large turbos.

Boost threshold is what most people are really talking about when the say "turbo lag." It's how long it takes for the turbo to make full boost.

Not to be confused with boost onset.

Boost onset is the point at which the IM stops sensing intake vacuum and begins sensing positive pressure. Simply said, it's the point when the boost gauge starts pointing to the right of "0." (Unless somebody's got some weird boost gauge that has the boost portion on the left)

Oh and what kind of T25 do you have? Turbine/compressor A/R? There were some variations in T25's as well and not all of them can make 250 hp.
 


siscoke

New Member
Chuckie Finster said:
Slight correction, bro.

Turbo lag is the time it takes from when the pedal hits the floor to the time the car is back on boost. If a turbo motor is making full boost at 4000 rpm and you were to let off the gas completely then floor it again, "turbo lag" is the time it takes for that turbo to get back up to speed to make boost again. There's a slight hesitation at the lower revs on moderate to large turbos.
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well basacly the same what i said only with the slight diff that ur english is better and u can say how you want to say it and i have to make some slight adjustments cause i couldnt come up with all the necessary words :p

but thx for the slight correction ;)

greetz sis
 

BoostedITR41

New Member
speedin said:
turbo surge is when the boost level temporarly spikes high.
no that is boost spike.

and even if it was called something as queer as turbo surge it would tend to happen because of wastegate placment and/or flow not turbo size.
 

JDMAmbition

New Member
Chuckie Finster said:
Slight correction, bro.

Turbo lag is the time it takes from when the pedal hits the floor to the time the car is back on boost. If a turbo motor is making full boost at 4000 rpm and you were to let off the gas completely then floor it again, "turbo lag" is the time it takes for that turbo to get back up to speed to make boost again. There's a slight hesitation at the lower revs on moderate to large turbos.

Boost threshold is what most people are really talking about when the say "turbo lag." It's how long it takes for the turbo to make full boost.

Not to be confused with boost onset.

Boost onset is the point at which the IM stops sensing intake vacuum and begins sensing positive pressure. Simply said, it's the point when the boost gauge starts pointing to the right of "0." (Unless somebody's got some weird boost gauge that has the boost portion on the left)

Oh and what kind of T25 do you have? Turbine/compressor A/R? There were some variations in T25's as well and not all of them can make 250 hp.
yes, it's a A/R T25 . I'm still hesitating on if I should buy this
 

ForceFed

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actually all 3 are incorrect.

since a turbine is exhaust driven, turbo surge is when your engine does not put out enough exhaust to run your turbo, therefore it feels like there is something that resembles restriction of exhaust. too much of it will ruin your engine and turbine.

i have a T04 and i get turbo surge when i dont use my injectors. but it only does it like once a week when it is really cold, for like 10 seconds.you can control the surge and it wont do any damage to your engine as long as you dont get on it when you are surging.

ITR, what size turbo do you have?
 
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type dc2

New Member
if it was me id jus hondata... i dont wanna change all that stuff out, but if you willing to spend the money, go for it.
 

BoostedITR41

New Member
ForceFed said:
actually all 3 are incorrect.

since a turbine is exhaust driven, turbo surge is when your engine does not put out enough exhaust to run your turbo, therefore it feels like there is something that resembles restriction of exhaust. too much of it will ruin your engine and turbine.

i have a T04 and i get turbo surge when i dont use my injectors. but it only does it like once a week when it is really cold, for like 10 seconds.you can control the surge and it wont do any damage to your engine as long as you dont get on it when you are surging.

ITR, what size turbo do you have?
no that is back presure not turbo surge.

I have a 18g
 
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