Noob here with a few audio questions

sylvaner01

New Member
The best place to mount those tweeters is to have them facing you as high pitched sound it directional.
I would suggest perhaps moving them around the dash until you find a position where you can hear them without being overpowering to the lower frequencies as this can be extremely anoying if you want to turn up the sound and all you hear is high pitched sounds.
As for the sub enclosure I will link you my box which I can also push to the back side of the car which fits in perfectly.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/513/10012011069.jpg/
I would also recommend putting in a false floor in your boot which is just a floor made from MDF or chipboard so you can easily screw in amps, sub boxes ect so they dont smash around your trunk when taking corners.

There is a link under my name if you want to see that false floor i was talking about.

Good luck with your build.
 

facechubb

New Member
Thanks sylvaner01! By any chance would you be willing to divulge your enclosure dimensions? Well I suppose first I should ask if your sub is a 10 or 12. I have a 10.

As far as the false floor, I will definitely be building one of those for my car. A very simple but incredibly useful idea!
 

facechubb

New Member
Hey everyone! Just got all my wiring from Knukonceptz today...gotta say, this is some heavy duty stuff.


I bought everything I need to install my 2 amps, and I'll be starting the install tomorrow with a friend of mine's help.
Before I start though, I've got a few questions about running all of the wiring...

1) I am extremely frightened of running new speaker wire in my doors, as I have heard that it is a total nightmare. I found this thread that detailed the process, and I was wondering if this is pretty much the only way to go?
http://www.team-integra.net/forum/blogs/morningz/77-g3-running-new-speaker-wire-into-door.html

2) My car (93 RS) has no power windows, locks, and no factory back speakers. The wiring is still there for the back speakers, but I'm running new wire from my amp. How do I get the speaker wire to where it needs to be for the back speakers?

3) When installing my head unit is there a way to keep it tight and stable without buying an installation kit?

4) This question was answered before in a way, but where/how do I run the wiring under the carpet? Are there optimal spots for the wires? Somebody mentioned running the wires down the middle of the car...when I look at my door floor trimpanel it doesn't look as though any wire would fit underneath there.

Thanks again for all the help! I'll be sure to post some pics of the progress I make tomorrow.
 

5150KDC2

New Member
answer one... no that isnt the only way to go, you can run it throught that same area with out drilling into your plug. that is a cleaner way of doing it, but you dont need to.

answer two... to get the wires to where you want them, you will most likely end up pulling interior pannels. Thats the easiest way of doing it. you can run it where you want and then cover it back up.

answer three... I recomend to just spend the money for the mounting kit, its worth it in the long run, and you head unit wont be abused as much when driving.

answer four... I ran mine under the carpet on the side of the car.. I had to lift up the plastic that the door goes over, so dont run it under the plastic, pull the carpet up some more and you should have some room. Use both sides of the car, it will look better instead of having a bump. You can also go down the center of the carpet, but you will have to pull your center console out, and use a coat hanger for the rest that isnt covered to pull it through, unless you want to cut your carpet.

the kit looks nice bro, good choice. Hopefully this helps out.
 


facechubb

New Member
Response to answer 1) I'm not sure I fully understand how to go about running the speaker wire without drilling into the plug...So basically you would just have the wire chilling "next" to the plug and boot? Am I wrong here?

Response to answer 2) Sounds as if this is going to be the easiest step.

Response to answer 4) Doesn't seem too difficult. Hopefully I won't run into any problems. Would I need to take out my seats at all?

New questions:
1) How difficult is it to mount tweeters inside the door panels? Any suggestions for placement?

Thanks again!
 

5150KDC2

New Member
1: you should be able to run the wire inside the boot that goes from body to the door, and just run it through to the other side along the wires that are already there.. Dont quote me on that though, I havent seen what that looks like in that model. so basicly in the boot, just around the conector.

4: No, you shouldnt have to, your not gonna get into the carpet that far. The most you might have to do is rout it around the seatbelt bolt. but since you have basicly lap belts, you shouldnt have a problem.

new 1: a lot of people mount them in or on the dash, I like the look of them being in the door personally. You will want them as far forward and as high as you can get them in the door panel. As far as putting them in, it depends if the tweeters are designed to set in the door, or if they are made to sit on top. I belive alpine's can sit in, so find out how big the hole needs to be, and make the hole. Just keep it a snug fit so it doesnt go any where. They should be farily light so you shouldnt need any reinforcement to hold it in, if you get them in there good.
 

facechubb

New Member
Hey guys, finally got around to doing the install in my car.
I opted not to install the 4 channel amp at this point (I still have all of the cabling required to do it in the future if I so desire however), because running the speaker wire proved to be too much of a task for that day, and I wouldn't have time to try doing it again for quite a while.
Thankfully, the sound quality is infinitely better than the factory speakers I had before. I'm actually surprised at how good everything sounds after tweaking the sub amp and the head unit's EQ. I'm super stoked.
I do have some post-install questions though. Below are just a few pictures of the install, and then a few of the trunk post-install. I'll type my questions after the pics (my buddy is the one in the pictures, not me):











The "problem areas" are the last two pictures, and here are my questions regarding them:
1) The tweeter install went smooth (the crossovers that came with them were cheap, but get the job done), however, due to the fact that I have no power mirrors, I couldn't place the tweets in the "optimal spot." AND, due to the concave part of the door panel, the tweets couldn't be mounted super-flush how I would like them to be. Are there any kind of rubber seals I could put around them or something similar that could conceal the roughness there?

2) For the back speakers, I had read that DA's fit 6 1/2"...but, the speakers don't line up or sit flush with where they would normally be screwed in. The mounts that came with the speakers don't remedy this issue either...How can I go about securing the back speakers and also, where can I get some DA back speaker grills (or better yet, anybody know how I can make them?)?

3) My head unit has an HPF...would using this further my sound dynamics? I would mess around with it right now but my fiancee is out with the car right now so I can't. I've EQ'ed everything without using the HPF on the head unit and it sounds great...will using the HPF further the sound quality?

I still plan on building an MDF floor panel to screw the sub into (along with anything else I install), and I still need to install my head unit mounting kit, but so far my new system is turning out pretty badass! Thanks so much for all of your guys' help so far!
What do you think so far of a noobs first install?
 


5150KDC2

New Member
nice job bro, especially for the first one... super clean.

1) you might be able to find a vinal glue or something that can fill it, and smooth it with your finger, I dont know how close on color it will be though. you could also try and find some faberic thats the same color and re wrap that section, or have some one do it to get rid of the rough edges, if you have some one do it they could probably rais that section to get rid of the gap.

2) you can get some wood or metal and make it to size of the mounts, and then mount the speakers to that. This will also allow you to make your own speaker cover. im sure a hobbie store would have the stuff you would need if you wanted to go that rout. go thin for the mount and then get some thick wood for the ring to go around the speaker (you can use a longer screw and pinch the speaker frame between both peices of wood or metal and wood.) then take that fabric screen, and wrap it around the wood ring with some glue or staples. just an idea.. you seem like your capable of doing it from looking at the pics.

3)you really dont need to use your hpf, since the speakers have it all built in. plus you will lose a lot of midrange with that, just use the equalizer in the head unit to get it how you want to sound. when you do the amp for the door speakers, use the the amp to adjust your levels.
 
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