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[Tam4511]

you can get away with lower pis or higher psi, just it wont last as long, its relative, the higher u run ito n astock the shorter it will last, you can get away with mabey 50k-even 100k more miles, but its better to be safe and upgrade the pistons and.head studs you will get a hp boost too

 

[heykosal]

You will not be able to only run 3 or 5 psi on that turbo. The internal wastegate is set higher than that.

To near 300hp, you will want larger injectors and and upgraded fuel pump. The throttle body and intake manifold upgrades are money that could probably be better spent somewhere else. A new clutch will be a definite necessity.

Right, I forgot about addressing fuel delivery and drivetrain.

But you should be able to run 10psi on a stock motor as long as it's healthy and everything is in good order.

 

[Brandon]

ok so to my understanding, I need to get the fuel pump, and some bigger injectors. One more question I have is my ecu. I don't have an ecu for the turbo yet. I just have the stock ecu. Can I go to hondata . Com and get the $200 s300 and call it good? Or will that not work for my boost? A guy told me that I can't get that, that I was going to have to buy something from him for $500. So will that $200 part from hondata work for mt boost set up? If I were to get that, the fuel pump, fuel injectors, and the 3in exhaust.
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[dc2GS-R]

Hondata is only compatible with OBD1 ECU's. You would need to get an older ECU and jumper harness to convert to it.

 

[Brandon]

well what can I do that would be the cheapest way to upgrade my ecu so I can use the boost setup? can i just get a cheaper piggy back tuner or something so i don't have to dyno tune it, but set it with a tuner? what are my options here?
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[Kevin97]

I just finished bunching my parts together for my turbo build. Its a 97 LS Sedan. if you have a 96-99 teg U need an OBD2A-OBD1 Ecu Conversion harness and you also need an OBD1 ECU. They sell chipped ecu's ready for tuning on xenocron.com . Comes with datalogger and 2 basemaps. and I suggest you go with them for tuning also. They have good parts, decent prices, and awesome communication and support.

 

[Brandon]

I just finished bunching my parts together for my turbo build. Its a 97 LS Sedan. if you have a 96-99 teg U need an OBD2A-OBD1 Ecu Conversion harness and you also need an OBD1 ECU. They sell chipped ecu's ready for tuning on xenocron.com . Comes with datalogger and 2 basemaps. and I suggest you go with them for tuning also. They have good parts, decent prices, and awesome communication and support.

So these are the 2 things I need for the ecu, and I will be ready for the dyno tuning?

http://www.xenocron.com/ecu-conversion-harness-obd2a-to-obd1-p-127.html?osCsid=6291f4f9e003283384ccfe45695c2dbb

http://www.xenocron.com/chipped-obd1-nonvtec-ecu-p-154.html?osCsid=6291f4f9e003283384ccfe45695c2dbb
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[Kevin97]

ready for tuning yes. But this does not mean you have any software. You still need to get some kind of platform like the hondata s200 or s300. Or aem stand alone. eCtune. These are all products that allow adjustments of certain parts that allow the car to exeed the specs of stock settings. Some of them have options like rev limiter, launch control, etc. If you are going to get the s300, they have a chipping option right next to that ecu you found that adds 5 bucks for a chip that makes ur ecu ready for the s300. You still need to buy the s300 though. The most affordable way is to have them tune your car on eCtune. If you do that, you wont be able to adjust your settings though. They told me its going to be around 500 for 3 dyno runs and a tune on eCtune.

 

[Brandon]

so in other words... I have to buy those parts that I listed up above, then I still have to buy the s300 from hondata's webiste or something of that sort?
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[Kevin97]

Yea. All the software out there that is used for tuning is basically all only compatible with OBD1 ECU's. Thats why you need to convert your OBD2A TO OBD1. To do that you need the conversion harness and ecu which the links you posted are. And THEN you also need to buy a tuning platform. A lot of Dyno spots have the software at the shop and modify your ecu. But a lot of people buy the platforms like hondata and all the other stuff i posted beforehand and the tuner just tunes based on whats on your car. IF you buy the hondata, you need to make sure you go to a hondata dealer or someone who knows how to tune with hondata to get tuned.

 

[eaz_e]

If I were you I'd do a lil bit more research on forced induction before you go ahead and throw your turbo. For chipped ecu's go to Phearable.net there really really good!!

 

[Brandon]

If I were you I'd do a lil bit more research on forced induction before you go ahead and throw your turbo. For chipped ecu's go to Phearable.net there really really good!!

If i were to go to the website you told me about and get the chipped ecu for non-vtec and get the conversion harness, I will still need some sort of s300 or aem stand alone or whatever I decide to go with right?
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[speedin]

Looks like heykosal and dc2GS-R already have this locked up.

But I just want to reiterate what Kyle said, you cant push that low of PSI on that turbo, if im not mistaken the WGA is set to 8psi, so that would be your minimum (and I bet that is going to creep up from 8 as well). A clutch is going to be another must have, on another note what type of tires and brakes are you running? With that set-up you want at least some nice pads and decent tires. Also 440 Injectors are also not going to cut it. If your whole theme here is safety then a nice amount of headroom in IDC's is a must. Because cost between injector sizes isnt that much (judging off DW prices) then id go with some 750's. Finally IMO a Walbro 255lph HP is a must on any decently modded car, and on EVERY turbo car. But that just me

And as heykosal said, a check-up on the engine is a must (make that a check-up on the entire car, cooling, brakes, tires, etc). If you find the motor isnt healthy enough boosting is going to be a waste of time, as your just going to kill the motor quicker and get alot of blow-by.

 

[heykosal]

Looks like heykosal and dc2GS-R already have this locked up.

But I just want to reiterate what Kyle said, you cant push that low of PSI on that turbo, if im not mistaken the WGA is set to 8psi, so that would be your minimum (and I bet that is going to creep up from 8 as well). A clutch is going to be another must have, on another note what type of tires and brakes are you running? With that set-up you want at least some nice pads and decent tires. Also 440 Injectors are also not going to cut it. If your whole theme here is safety then a nice amount of headroom in IDC's is a must. Because cost between injector sizes isnt that much (judging off DW prices) then id go with some 750's. Finally IMO a Walbro 255lph HP is a must on any decently modded car, and on EVERY turbo car. But that just me

And as heykosal said, a check-up on the engine is a must (make that a check-up on the entire car, cooling, brakes, tires, etc). If you find the motor isnt healthy enough boosting is going to be a waste of time, as your just going to kill the motor quicker and get alot of blow-by.

And make shit for power:lol:

 

[eaz_e]

Well In order to run a Hondata you will need a ECU socketed. The s300 is a lil bit harder to set up, then a s100 or s200. Also your s300 is going to need to boost control options. Here's a link for preparing your ecu for S300. http://www.hondata.com/s300socketing.html
Hondata does recommend that a professional install's it.
Also if you haven't dont a comp. and leak down test on your motor I highly recommend that you go and get one done.