B series turbo tranny????

patrick4588

Integra God
you want the longer gears for turbo, when you start messing with boost you want to stay in
the power band as long as possible, especially when dealing with a nice size
turbo. .
Notice how I said small and big turbo's. You need the LS gears to see the true side of that turbo coming
to life8)
longer gears means falling out of powerband when you shift. the only benefit to an ls tranny is for daily driving. for racing, the shorter gears mean a faster car. like anything however, there is a point of diminishing return. an itr tranny's gearing makes you run out of gear at the track. a gsr tranny is perfect for a turbo application. vtecvaz, you dont have a clue what you are talking about.
 

patrick4588

Integra God
LS, GSR trans are fine for all kinds of boost

B16 and typeR trans is alot better for All Motor apps. especially with higher compressions.

what does compression ratio have to do with transmission gearing? lol. whether you have 12:1 or 9:1 pistons, at 70mph you will still be at xxx rpm on xxx tranny.
 
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patrick4588

Integra God
how does a motors compression determine what transmission you should use? i know a lot about cars, but i know i dont know everything. if there is something i dont know, clue me in.
 

heykosal

Angkorian
longer gears means falling out of powerband when you shift. the only benefit to an ls tranny is for daily driving. for racing, the shorter gears mean a faster car. like anything however, there is a point of diminishing return. an itr tranny's gearing makes you run out of gear at the track. a gsr tranny is perfect for a turbo application. vtecvaz, you dont have a clue what you are talking about.
8)hehe But I can see what he means. I think what he was trying to say is that a longer geared(LS) tranny might be better suited to turbocharged B18's because the extra power from the turbo will more than make up for the longer gearing=slower acceleration and falling out of the powerband.
I remember my friend's turboed JDMed front LS had a B16 tranny which(I believe) is even shorter than the GSR gears, and that car would be like whoosh redline whooosh redline whooosh redline. It seems like we ran through the gears wayy to quicky. There was no flexibilty it was always revving high as the sky and eating up gas. We always ran out of gear ending up redlining and topping out at a sort of skimp top speed(I dont remember what it was.)
Plus I remember added huge power to cars in Gran Turismo and I always had to extend the gear ratios be just so the engine actually had the time to pull in a certain gear or another and actually spool the turbo and get full boost/full power.

Im actually incredibly tired its 2:38a and I'm soooo out of it maybe my thinking is just WRONG and I have no clue what I am trying to say, let alone know what I'm talking about. So let me know if I am right, you agree with me, I'm sort of correct and fix my misunderstandings, or I'm just totally off, in which case just school my ass:D.

I apologize to everyone for writing a freakin' novel LOL.
 


patrick4588

Integra God
you are right on man. having those shorter gears will make you accelerate hella faster and will just top out much quicker than with the longer gears in an ls tranny. this is good for racing, but the b16's gears are so short you will top out and thats why a gsr is better suited for turbo cars. i go all the way to 140 in 4th revving to 9500. having the ls will make my car slower, but so will the b16 because ill run out of gear. the gsr is just right.
 

corona88

Member
You rev high enough with the B16 and you wont run out of gear. i have toped out my spedo with my B16.

_Winki
 

1caintegra

type-s and the RS
You rev high enough with the B16 and you wont run out of gear. i have toped out my spedo with my B16.

_Winki
ya ive take my car 130+ with gears still left. plus i never hit 130 on a road course ever so there enough gears not a problem gsr tranny better for gas milage and dd setup like freeway driving and i think a gsr tranny would help lengthen you turbo's life.cuz u can stay out of boost if wanted
 

jason_guy_yeah

New Member
Well, I guess it would really depend on how much torque and rpm range you have. It's possible to run out of gears on a gsr if you have a 600+hp car on a run way. Or 1/4 miles with a NA setup, a ....
 

vtecvaz

vtecvaz
Well if it helps, I owne and drive an 8.1 second car looking for 7's once money lets me.
But Im used to monster turbo's with nitrous to wake them up. But I play with a mean field of
mofo's that keep stacks of LS trannys on tap. We are the once that bring the car on the flat bed to the streets and make fools cry:lol:
But if we are talking about daily driver bang for buck then yes GSR all you want.
As for me Im just a newb at this so please ignore my last thread8):twisted:

VTECVAZ

 

Winki

Undercover mod
i think a gsr tranny would help lengthen you turbo's life.cuz u can stay out of boost if wanted
Actually longer gears would help that, not shorter. Shorter gears=higher cruising revs.
Sorry if i come off like a dick but you guys do know how a turbo works right? just because im crusing at 4.5k going 70 or 80ish does not mean my turbo is putting me in boost. i'm sure someone else will explain this better but just so were on the same page. :lol:

I <3 u all:p
 
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