I'd never go after like that girl like that. I TOTALLY see what you're saying, which is why I asked about asking her friend. Basically I never see this guy at any parties, he's like rarely in pics with her, I'm just wondering how together they really are, so I can judge my moves. If shes like legit with him and happy and all, I'd just leave it be. But if she's not then maybe I'd hang with her more you know? I just don't wanna go after a girl that I have no chance with or she has a boy that she's like serious with you know? It's hard to explain..