Trying to line up a cheap decent turbo kit. Would like some help

Stopsign32v

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Well I was thinking about getting a 3rd gen GSR for a daily driver and putting bolt ons and stuff on it. But after reading up it sounds like a turbo LS would be a better route. All I've read is "LS" but when I look on craigslist I see both LS integras and GS. Which model should I look for? Kinda confused there...

Anyways I would like to keep the A/C and powersteering. I did alot of searching and saw some manifolds that will work but I don't want to drop $800-$1,500 on just the turbo manifold. So I ran across this one. http://www.spoolinperformance.com/bseries-cast-turbo-manifold-p-457.html it says A/C and powersteering clearance. Anyone know of a downside to this manifold?

Turbo I think this one might be a good/cheap choice. Opinions? http://www.spoolinperformance.com/garrett-t3to4e-trim-p-30.html

I wouldn't cheap out on the wastegate or BOV. I've had good luck with Tial so I would probably go with them for that if the 16g isn't internal. (sorry I'm a domestic guy. Still learning imports)

I've seen some decently cheap piping and intercooler kits so I don't think that would be a problem.Would this intercooler work without any bumper cutting? http://www.spoolinperformance.com/spoolin-27x65x35-intercooler-p-98.html and here is a piping kit. http://www.spoolinperformance.com/9401-integra-9600-civic-aluminum-street-intercooler-piping-p-587.html

Anything left out I wouldn't skimp on price wise. Mainly I'm wondering if that exhaust manifold and turbo would reach my goals...
 
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Rich-PMS

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To be honest those prices are pretty reasonable.

You'll still need silicone couplers and tbolt clamps, BOV, oil line, tune.

And goingthis route isn't cheaping out- it's a name brand turbo. And a cheap cast manifold is known to last longer than cheap log/ram style.
 

Stopsign32v

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To be honest those prices are pretty reasonable.

You'll still need silicone couplers and tbolt clamps, BOV, oil line, tune.

And goingthis route isn't cheaping out- it's a name brand turbo. And a cheap cast manifold is known to last longer than cheap log/ram style.
Yea I thought the prices seemed decent. I don't see a point in dropping $5,000 into a setup that will give you 300whp. I know all the other things I need just trying to get advice on the main pieces.

And a cheap cast manifold is known to last longer than cheap log/ram style.
Excuse my ignorance but I'm not up to date on what "log/ram style" manifolds are. The one I listed is obviously cast so are you saying it will be a good one for me to choose?
 

Rich-PMS

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Just google ram style turbo manifold, and log style manifold. You'll see the differance, as they're not cast, and put the turbo in differant locations.
 

dc2GS-R

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Stopsign32v said:
Well I was thinking about getting a 3rd gen GSR for a daily driver and putting bolt ons and stuff on it. But after reading up it sounds like a turbo LS would be a better route. All I've read is "LS" but when I look on craigslist I see both LS integras and GS. Which model should I look for? Kinda confused there...
Most people just refer to the entire non VTEC line-up as LS. They all have the same drivetrain whether it is a RS, LS, GS or SE. They just have different options and standard equipment.


Stopsign32v said:
I wouldn't cheap out on the wastegate or BOV. I've had good luck with Tial so I would probably go with them for that if the 16g isn't internal. (sorry I'm a domestic guy. Still learning imports)
The MHI 16G turbo does have an internal wastegate


Anyway, spoolin performance does make some decent products. There is nothing wrong with a good cast manifold. They can easily support 300hp and are much less likely to have issues with cracking due to vibration, heat cycling and stress than tubular manifolds. And yes, you will have to trim some of the inside of the front bumper to squeeze a decent intercooler in there.
 


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Stopsign32v

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Well I talked to Spoolin Performance earlier. Let me correct that, I called them and no one answered and then they called me back. I must say that is some nice customer service right there. He basically told me

That cast manifold will support 450hp (not sure if he meant whp or just at the motor.) and was a good choice for me. It will let you keep both P/S and A/C. Only thing is the turbo will have to be made to a 5 bolt which he can do and will cost $80 more on the turbo price. And I will have to trim the stock fan shroud or get a slim fan. He also added that trimming the stock shroud will still cool the motor better than a slim fan setup.

Getting kinda excited about this now that it wont cost me that much. Only worry is getting a motor that doesn't have 300,000 miles on it.
 

redrocket

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I am doing a ton of work to my LS right now and I am using a Manifold from spoolin performance. I will be using a Slim fan setup along with a performance radiator.
 

Stopsign32v

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red are you using the manifold Im talking about? link me up to this radiator your talking about. Im ready to get this build on the road! No slow teggy for me! I might even keep the car looking kinda stock and keep the exhaust quiet with a couple Magnaflow mufflers to suprise a bit of people. 8)
 

redrocket

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red are you using the manifold Im talking about? link me up to this radiator your talking about. Im ready to get this build on the road! No slow teggy for me! I might even keep the car looking kinda stock and keep the exhaust quiet with a couple Magnaflow mufflers to surprise a bit of people. 8)

Ya, I was wanting to go to the extreme with the quite thing and keep my exhaust stock and then just put an Electric exhaust cutout on. But the stock exhaust wont flow enough for the turbo and will create to much back pressure. So I am in search of the most quiet exhaust on the market. The Apexi NOIR seems to be pretty discrete.

Here is the Radiator
http://www.tunersports.com/product/mishimoto/mishimoto-performance-radiator-mmrad-int-94_40.html

Here is the Fan Assembly.
http://www.tunersports.com/products/mishimoto/mishimoto-fan-shrouds_40.html

You can also just buy a single fan but I figured I might as well have two in a one piece unit.
http://www.tunersports.com/products/mishimoto/mishimoto-slim-electric-fan_239.html
 

Stopsign32v

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Is that those small radiators like this one?


Looking around I saw a ton of turbo integras running this radiator. I don't see how they cool their engines adequately!!
 

redrocket

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Is that those small radiators like this one?


Looking around I saw a ton of turbo integras running this radiator. I don't see how they cool their engines adequately!!
No, one of my requirements for going turbo was to keep a full sized radiator, 2 fans, my PS, AC, and CC. The Manifold I am using allows me to do that. I am having the Block Notched to make room for the turbo.
 

redrocket

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I am having the manifold coated in JET HOT, it looks great and is supposed to lower temperatures by 400 degrees. I am also using a turbo blanket made out of crushed lava rock to cut down on heat transfer and of course I am heat wrapping the AC lines. Even though the turbo will be no where close, I am building this thing for the long haul in Arizona heat.
 

Stopsign32v

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No, one of my requirements for going turbo was to keep a full sized radiator, 2 fans, my PS, AC, and CC. The Manifold I am using allows me to do that. I am having the Block Notched to make room for the turbo.
Well your goal is exactly mine! What do you mean have your block notched? And I know I've asked you before but I just want to make 100% sure...you are going with this manifold right? http://www.spoolinperformance.com/bseries-cast-turbo-manifold-p-457.html And what turbo are you going to run?


I did as much searching as I could after work a couple nights but I didn't see too many people running this spoolin manifold, not sure why. :???:
 
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