Touge Gating (in my teg)

[RickDC2]

Thanx.We had to drive a good distance to get to this roads.Almost 2hrs but it was worth it.My set up is:

Complete ITR head
ITR IM
LS block
ITR crank, rods, pistons
ITR LSD tranny (4.4 final)
ARP head & rod bolts
LSD Motorsport 6 puke clutch
Exedy 7lbs. flywheel
Velocity stack short ram intake
ARP head & rod bolts
PS & AC
DC sport header
Thermal catback
Hiflow cat
K-sport coilovers
Blah,Blah

 

[BigMac88]

Not bad. Makes me miss the touge.

I just went up on Tuesday. Probably going today too. You should roll out to The Snake with me sometime man. Or we could hit AC?

Thanx.We had to drive a good distance to get to this roads.Almost 2hrs but it was worth it.My set up is:

Complete ITR head
ITR IM
LS block
ITR crank, rods, pistons
ITR LSD tranny (4.4 final)
LSD Motorsport 6 puke clutch
Exedy 7lbs. flywheel
Velocity stack short ram intake
ARP head & rod bolts
PS & AC
DC sport header
Thermal catback
Hiflow cat
K-sport coilovers
Blah,Blah

Wow someone who actually built an LS/VTEC the right way :clap:

BTW double-laning = fail
You're downshifts = fail
You're throttle control = fail

:lol:

Don't stab the pedals feed in, it works better I promise :thumbs up

But I'm glad you actually go to the touge and are out driving rather than putting a body kit on your car and I'm sorry if this seems condescending it's not meant to be.

 

[RickDC2]

I know id messed up big time in alot of turns but im learning so ill get there someday.I have been always a straight line guy with my old turbo civic's so now a have a better car to do this kind of stuff.Thanx for the pointers.Ill take any help i can take on this, trust me. :lol:

 

[BigMac88]

I know id messed up big time in alot of turns but im learning so ill get there someday.I have been always a straight line guy with my old turbo civic's so now a have a better car to do this kind of stuff.Thanx for the pointers.Ill take any help i can take on this, trust me. :lol:

Hey man we all start somewhere; I'm still a student too. We all are on some level I guess :what: anyway, I'm glad to see you enjoying performance driving and using an Integra for what it's worth rather than just making it a 'JDM' hard parker :thumbs up

The best 'beginner's advice' I can give you is this:

Smoothly feed in and out of all inputs - steering, throttle, braking. Smoothness is one key to being fast.

Learing basic lines is very important. Lines for a turn still exist in a single lane - you're playing with inches rather than feet, but it will make you a better and more precise driver. Plus even at the track, all of the best drivers are still driving within the parameter of inches rather than feet.

Shift to the gear you need before entering the turn. Heel-toe is important. Later on, you can trail-brake and heel-toe into turns to get you through more quickly (it will also cause oversteer, which is awesome but you need to know how to use it to get through the turn quicker). For now, straight-brake before the turn and downshift, preferably using heel-toe.

If you get understeer, feed out of the throttle until the understeer goes away, then feed back in until you get understeer or ideally right before.

If you get oversteer, you can usually feed into the throttle and the steering a bit and the car will line up and come through the corner. Many track FWD's are actually setup to oversteer more than understeer - it's the fastest way for a FWD through a corner if you know how to use it. That's why the ITR is setup the way it is.

I didn't happen to see if you had an LSD or not, but if you do, you have LOTS more room to get on the gas through corners. Be aware - if you do, it may be masking some steering and throttle input mistakes.

Tires and brakes make THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE in handling compared to any other part you put on the car. You can have $20,000 into the motor and suspension, but if you're running crap tires you'll still be slow. I recommend Yokohama S.Drives to start with. They're great all-around tires.

'Feeling' things that the car does/is about to do and driving by feel are very, very important.

I wish you was in SoCal, there is so much to explain and it's better to do it in person haha

 

[JDMxDB8]

When you heel-and-toe downshift, you're on the clutch a bit too long. It should be a quick blip from the throttle.

 

[RickDC2]

Hey man we all start somewhere; I'm still a student too. We all are on some level I guess :what: anyway, I'm glad to see you enjoying performance driving and using an Integra for what it's worth rather than just making it a 'JDM' hard parker :thumbs up

The best 'beginner's advice' I can give you is this:

Smoothly feed in and out of all inputs - steering, throttle, braking. Smoothness is one key to being fast.

Learing basic lines is very important. Lines for a turn still exist in a single lane - you're playing with inches rather than feet, but it will make you a better and more precise driver. Plus even at the track, all of the best drivers are still driving within the parameter of inches rather than feet.

Shift to the gear you need before entering the turn. Heel-toe is important. Later on, you can trail-brake and heel-toe into turns to get you through more quickly (it will also cause oversteer, which is awesome but you need to know how to use it to get through the turn quicker). For now, straight-brake before the turn and downshift, preferably using heel-toe.

If you get understeer, feed out of the throttle until the understeer goes away, then feed back in until you get understeer or ideally right before.

If you get oversteer, you can usually feed into the throttle and the steering a bit and the car will line up and come through the corner. Many track FWD's are actually setup to oversteer more than understeer - it's the fastest way for a FWD through a corner if you know how to use it. That's why the ITR is setup the way it is.

I didn't happen to see if you had an LSD or not, but if you do, you have LOTS more room to get on the gas through corners. Be aware - if you do, it may be masking some steering and throttle input mistakes.

Tires and brakes make THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE in handling compared to any other part you put on the car. You can have $20,000 into the motor and suspension, but if you're running crap tires you'll still be slow. I recommend Yokohama S.Drives to start with. They're great all-around tires.

'Feeling' things that the car does/is about to do and driving by feel are very, very important.

I wish you was in SoCal, there is so much to explain and it's better to do it in person haha

Thanx alot for the advaice.Deff will use them.I have an ITR lsd 4.4 tranny with ITR brakes conv.Id notice the difference on the tranny and brakes from my old civic's and is way better for this kind of driving.Im not running rear sway bar since i have blox LCA's but ill be getting an ASR to put my 19mm suspension technique sway bar. :twisted:

 

[JDMxDB8]

Thanx alot for the advaice.Deff will use them.I have an ITR lsd 4.4 tranny with ITR brakes conv.Id notice the difference on the tranny and brakes from my old civic's and is way better for this kind of driving.Im not running rear sway bar since i have blox LCA's but ill be getting an ASR to put my 19mm suspension technique sway bar. :twisted:

That's why you're getting understeer... Must feel weird driving without a rear sway bar.