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speedin

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So does that mean you don't know? :lol: That's cool if not, I don't expect people to build motors like these, just wondering about the o-ring thing.
I added to the post.

But they are quite simple. Its all basically the same, just turn it on its side.
 

Aussie

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I figured that they were just like the newer flat fours that are in the boxters and what not. The older air-cooled flat fours and flat sixes were tough. I'm guessing because they were air-cooled. Do they have individual heads for each cylinder or are they paired together? Sorry for the million questions, it's really just one of the only motors I haven't fucked with.
 

speedin

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I figured that they were just like the newer flat fours that are in the boxters and what not. The older air-cooled flat fours and flat sixes were tough. I'm guessing because they were air-cooled. Do they have individual heads for each cylinder or are they paired together? Sorry for the million questions, it's really just one of the only motors I haven't fucked with.
Here are some photos to get an idea. Just imagine a B18 split and half and joined at the crank









Simple isnt it.
 

Aussie

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Umm..yea it's the same concept of any other horizontally opposed engine. lol See the older Porsche motors had an individual cylinder and seperate head for each piston, which were then attached to a two piece crankshaft case. This was all tied together with lots of bolts, o-rings, studs, etc. They were very complicated, so I'm glad to know that Subaru simplified things for todays tuners, because I don't think that most of the young bucks would be able to handle working on this motors predecessor.
 


speedin

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which were then attached to a two piece crankshaft case. This was all tied together with lots of bolts, o-rings, studs, etc. They were very complicated
Oh its still split





Buts its not complicated. I think there are only a few O rings to seal them.
 

Aussie

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Yes but just your crankcase is split. You clyinders are forged in with it and your heads are one piece. I'm talking about individual cylinders, individual heads, and individual split crankcase, you following me, pita to get everything right so there is no oil leaks. But yes that motor looks like it would be a lot more enjoyable to work on. But don't get me wrong, building an old cis/megasquirt motor is cool as hell when you have the time and funds.
 

speedin

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Yes but just your crankcase is split. You clyinders are forged in with it and your heads are one piece. I'm talking about individual cylinders, individual heads, and individual split crankcase, you following me, pita to get everything right so there is no oil leaks. But yes that motor looks like it would be a lot more enjoyable to work on. But don't get me wrong, building an old cis/megasquirt motor is cool as hell when you have the time and funds.
FUCK! WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY DO THAT! LOL, You mean they actually built it like that? WTF! I would never imagine someone would split an engine like that. DAMN! No wonder you said they were a bitch. HAHA, now I know what you were talking about, just never imagined that was even a possibility. Shit, want a 18 cyl? Just strap a bunch of those together! Like Lego's! hahaha, that's sad though.
 


genesis

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hahahaha like no one knows any thing about these engines on this forum. me and a buddy of mine rebuilt a ej20 in school they are pretty easy once you understand. plus i took mine apart so i knew when i was done what every little single part on the engine does. get the Cosworth engine package and youll be happy
 

genesis

tougê hêrmit
its a good thing that they are split because if a piston or valve blows on one side you can save the other side so all you have to do is get half the block for half the money.
 

speedin

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hahahaha like no one knows any thing about these engines on this forum. me and a buddy of mine rebuilt a ej20 in school they are pretty easy once you understand. plus i took mine apart so i knew when i was done what every little single part on the engine does. get the Cosworth engine package and youll be happy
Na, OEM Ej207 for me. Unless you want to front the extra $15k i'll need for a Cosworth engine :)
 

Aussie

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Here's an idea of what I'm talking about. This is a Porsche 3.2l motor form a 911.

This is what I meant by individual cylinder heads.


See where the plugs go at


They used to use a dry sump setup that was chain driven. These motors run almost 9 quarts of oil.


They use pressure fed tensioners, one for each side.


See how the cam assembly and rockers and springs are yet another seperate casting.


These are called jugs, the 3.2l ones are 95mm, the ones we were using on the motor we were building when I left the shop at Florida were the 100mm ones used in the 3.5l


Sorry for the high-jack I just think it's cool to see where these motors kind of started from. Putting these together isn't really hard so to say but very time consuming and you have to remember everything. Shit they're hard.:lol:
 
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Aussie

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FUCK! WHY THE HELL WOULD THEY DO THAT! LOL, You mean they actually built it like that? WTF! I would never imagine someone would split an engine like that. DAMN! No wonder you said they were a bitch. HAHA, now I know what you were talking about, just never imagined that was even a possibility. Shit, want a 18 cyl? Just strap a bunch of those together! Like Lego's! hahaha, that's sad though.
lol yea but they were and still are bad ass. These motors are built so well that they will literally run forever if kept up with. The parts are so strong, they can be raced every day for over half a million miles and still run just fine for another half a million. Proper maintenance is all that's needed. The shit just doesn't wear out.
 

speedin

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lol yea but they were and still are bad ass. These motors are built so well that they will literally run forever if kept up with. The parts are so strong, they can be raced every day for over half a million miles and still run just fine for another half a million. Proper maintenance is all that's needed. The shit just doesn't wear out.
Thats amazing. Thanks for bringing that up actually, never knew anyone ever built a engine like that. Good info to know
 
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