g3teg97
Super Moderator
Can you elaborate more on that please. I was thinking about getting a JDM ITR one that is 23mm, then I saw a Cusco one that was 25mm and then Mugen makes 26mm.
What is the best suspension upgrade?
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K. Legaspi
You Buggin' Out
I've heard that way too thick of sway bars without having new mount kit could possibly rip the subframe or something along those lines. Keep in mind that I said "I heard...". lolCan you elaborate more on that please. I was thinking about getting a JDM ITR one that is 23mm, then I saw a Cusco one that was 25mm and then Mugen makes 26mm.
dc2GS-R
Super Moderator
A thicker rear sway bar will bring the car to a tendency more towards overtsteer at the limit. Almost every stock car is tuned to understeer at the limit for the sake of dumbass drivers. Putting a bigger rear sway bar makes the car more neutrally balanced which increases it's ability to rotate because the ass end is more willing to come around intstead of keeping all the load upfront. A really thick rear sway bar will increase drop throttle and trail braking oversteer dramatically. That can be very beneficial on a tight autoX course to rotate around a tight 180 degree turn but may become ridiculous and sometimes dangerous for a daily driven street car. You want to find a good medium of balance here. Finding the fattest rear bar you can will make your car wanna rotate a whole lot more. Suspension tuning is a black art. Too much can definitely be a bad thing. You wanna find that happy medium. It all kind of depends on what you want to do with your car and how far you want to go with it....just like everything elseCan you elaborate more on that please. I was thinking about getting a JDM ITR one that is 23mm, then I saw a Cusco one that was 25mm and then Mugen makes 26mm.
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speedin
The Transporter
Damn you guys beat me to it.I would get a bigger rear sway bar and camber kits next
speedin
The Transporter
^perfect^A thicker rear sway bar will bring the car to a tendency more towards overtsteer at the limit. Almost every stock car is tuned to understeer at the limit for the sake of dumbass drivers. Putting a bigger rear sway bar makes the car more neutrally balanced which increases it's ability to rotate because the ass end is more willing to come around intstead of keeping all the load upfront. A really thick rear sway bar will increase drop throttle and trail braking oversteer dramatically. That can be very beneficial on a tight autoX course to rotate around a tight 180 degree turn but may become ridiculous and sometimes dangerous for a daily driven street car. You want to find a good medium of balance here. Finding the fattest rear bar you can will make your car wanna rotate a whole lot more. Suspension tuning is a black art. Too much can definitely be a bad thing. You wanna find that happy medium. It all kind of depends on what you want to do with your car and how far you want to go with it....just like everything else
25 and 26 is quite extreeme for a DD car. Id suggest the 23mm one. IDK if you can find any adjustable ones, but thats the best of both worlds. Thats my plan. 24 up front and a 23,25,27 out back. Of course at that size you need to upgrade all your links.Ok, so kinda n00b questions then:
I found ITR sway bars at 22 and 23mm. Cusco makes a 25mm and Mugen makes a 26mm. I want my car stiffer to handle better etc. What would I use to compensate for the larger sway bar. Mugen also makes one for the front.
JDMxDB8
Raceline USA
If you can find one that is...So let's say I go with the 26mm Mugen rear sway bar. What are the advantages/disadvantages?
omgherb
93 Rs Looking ITs best
yea a set of sway bar,strut bars upper and lower,control arms
me i have a seat of stock stuts for now at least but stock stuts with tien lowering springs skunk2 control arms , and front upper strut bars my shit is tight no body roll at all. i have been able take turns around bends at about 75+mph with a good set of tires and havent spun out. dont know if this helps but i figured we got the same type of car it should be the same.
me i have a seat of stock stuts for now at least but stock stuts with tien lowering springs skunk2 control arms , and front upper strut bars my shit is tight no body roll at all. i have been able take turns around bends at about 75+mph with a good set of tires and havent spun out. dont know if this helps but i figured we got the same type of car it should be the same.
speedin
The Transporter
Advantage the rear end will become more balanced and reduce understeer.So let's say I go with the 26mm Mugen rear sway bar. What are the advantages/disadvantages?
Disadvantages, Bumpy as a mother! You will feel every little bump in the road. A rough road will make your back hurt. Also very twitchy turning (good on track, not so much on the street)
sonicvybe
new driver
On the street - A rough road will make u sit almost out of your seat, (kinda like the entrance to where i live - sadly) and some bumps are more/less intolerable at different speeds. Still very drivable on the street but just take more care than regular cars do, that's all.Advantage the rear end will become more balanced and reduce understeer.
Disadvantages, Bumpy as a mother! You will feel every little bump in the road. A rough road will make your back hurt. Also very twitchy turning (good on track, not so much on the street)
speedin
The Transporter
Yea, but it does take a certain person to ride in it and be able to tollereate daily. LOL, no 26mm sways with pregnant women in the car.On the street - A rough road will make u sit almost out of your seat, (kinda like the entrance to where i live - sadly) and some bumps are more/less intolerable at different speeds. Still very drivable on the street but just take more care than regular cars do, that's all.
But if you can deal with it those are the only real disadvantages.
JDMxDB8
Raceline USA
ITR Sway bars are really good. Way better than a stock 13mm one.Damn...the Mugen sway bars are ballin. lol
What would you suggest on a good daily driven sway bar? ITR 23mm?