I feel you on that one. One of my bestfriends has a custom, dual magnaflow muffler exhaust w/ presilencer on his S2K. And it sounds VERY pissed off at in VTEC. It sounds great but damn! I like it on that car though since it isn't a very feasible daily driver by any stretch of the imagination anyway.Custom built: Magnaflow 8x5 inch x 14 inch oval muffler and 14 inch resonator, 2.5 inch piping - Too loud for my taste, but did have a great tone, just wished I could turn down the volume, that's all.