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ZaWn

New Member
Ahhh I see now. I'm gonna be lowering my car soon. Already got my front camber kit ready to install, and I already have wider tires. (205/50/15). I never knew just having wider tires affects your car that much.

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You mean lowering your car affects the car. lol

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TheCrimsonStar

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You mean lowering your car affects the car. lol

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Well the chart says wider wheels and tires, so I assumed that greatly affects the geometry as well. I already knew lowering it affects it lol.

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ZaWn

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Well the chart says wider wheels and tires, so I assumed that greatly affects the geometry as well. I already knew lowering it affects it lol.

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Oh my bad, what I meant to say I that having wider tires does not affect it as much as lowering.

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Nick_C78

New Member
Don't really worry about the ball joints TheCrimsonStar. A lot of track people use OEM and it works flawlessly. It is a preference thing. In fact I see more issues with ball joint failures when people install extended(hopefully you dont Zawn). So just replace your worn ones with OEM and you will be ok. In the end, a good wheel alignment is going to benefit you the most in terms of geometry. And I don't mean the ones you get from Sears and such places, I mean performance alignments.
 

TheCrimsonStar

New Member
Don't really worry about the ball joints TheCrimsonStar. A lot of track people use OEM and it works flawlessly. It is a preference thing. In fact I see more issues with ball joint failures when people install extended(hopefully you dont Zawn). So just replace your worn ones with OEM and you will be ok. In the end, a good wheel alignment is going to benefit you the most in terms of geometry. And I don't mean the ones you get from Sears and such places, I mean performance alignments.
Several guys at the scca autocross i went to use Firestone lifetime alignments. I was planning on using that when I tear into my suspension.

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JDMxDB8

Raceline USA
Don't really worry about the ball joints TheCrimsonStar. A lot of track people use OEM and it works flawlessly. It is a preference thing. In fact I see more issues with ball joint failures when people install extended(hopefully you dont Zawn). So just replace your worn ones with OEM and you will be ok. In the end, a good wheel alignment is going to benefit you the most in terms of geometry. And I don't mean the ones you get from Sears and such places, I mean performance alignments.
Why do we keep thinking alike? I was just going to replace my old ones with fresh new OEM goodness too. :thumbs up
 


NemesisCBR

Boredest Member
Why do we keep thinking alike? I was just going to replace my old ones with fresh new OEM goodness too. :thumbs up
Some balanced form of practicality and necessity.

This discussion makes me curious about the variables that arent in play and i need a better understanding of that diagram when i can look into it later. Its always been thought that your center of gravity improves when you lower your car by the general community but i personally never spent time researching it as it sounded and felt logical. Usually the springs used make a big difference.
 

ZaWn

New Member
Don't really worry about the ball joints TheCrimsonStar. A lot of track people use OEM and it works flawlessly. It is a preference thing. In fact I see more issues with ball joint failures when people install extended(hopefully you dont Zawn). So just replace your worn ones with OEM and you will be ok. In the end, a good wheel alignment is going to benefit you the most in terms of geometry. And I don't mean the ones you get from Sears and such places, I mean performance alignments.
That is true, it depends on how low your car is. If you are not low enough, the ball joints will majorly screw up your roll center making it worse.(Handling, balance, body roll) I am holding off on installing them until I get coilovers so that I can have them aligned together.

Why do we keep thinking alike? I was just going to replace my old ones with fresh new OEM goodness too. :thumbs up
Soul mates?...i mean...bro mates?
Aww... you guys are cute! :mrgreen:

Some balanced form of practicality and necessity.

This discussion makes me curious about the variables that arent in play and i need a better understanding of that diagram when i can look into it later. Its always been thought that your center of gravity improves when you lower your car by the general community but i personally never spent time researching it as it sounded and felt logical. Usually the springs used make a big difference.
Here's an article you might wanna read: Roll Center

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