DeAngebro's build thread: Saving a rice box.
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I'd actually like to see some other people's inputs on the situation.
You say that your totally function>form but thats funny because you don't even get your full suspension travel because you would rather be 'moar low'. Your upper controls smashing against your shock towers is an easy fix but you would rather have your car look better than to have it preform better in the corners. You gloat about your 'awesome' suspension setup and then you proceed to get shit on in turns. And the you say my car is sketchy? It's pretty sketchy to throw your suspension geometry into whack and not even get an alignment, or drop it so your camber kit is smacking against the tower. Then how you bitches when you eat through a tire when all along your alignment was off. Or how anything I do to my car that's not cookie cutter, for example my wheels and valve cover, is considered gay to you. Originality is like a sin to you. Or how you think that selling your hood to me will dramatically decrease the value of your car. Or how you're a biggot and if you're wrong about something you'll sit there and argue an invalid point? Or how you rarely install parts on your own car. You don't even change your own oil. You couldn't even change your valve cover gasket without Alan being there. You also like to brag about you pay for all your parts and whatnot, your parents bought you new BRIDGESTONE POTENZA'S after your old ones wore out quickly because of your shitty alignment.
You're a cool guy and you're a good friend of mine, I'm just a little fed up.
You say that your totally function>form but thats funny because you don't even get your full suspension travel because you would rather be 'moar low'. Your upper controls smashing against your shock towers is an easy fix but you would rather have your car look better than to have it preform better in the corners. You gloat about your 'awesome' suspension setup and then you proceed to get shit on in turns. And the you say my car is sketchy? It's pretty sketchy to throw your suspension geometry into whack and not even get an alignment, or drop it so your camber kit is smacking against the tower. Then how you bitches when you eat through a tire when all along your alignment was off. Or how anything I do to my car that's not cookie cutter, for example my wheels and valve cover, is considered gay to you. Originality is like a sin to you. Or how you think that selling your hood to me will dramatically decrease the value of your car. Or how you're a biggot and if you're wrong about something you'll sit there and argue an invalid point? Or how you rarely install parts on your own car. You don't even change your own oil. You couldn't even change your valve cover gasket without Alan being there. You also like to brag about you pay for all your parts and whatnot, your parents bought you new BRIDGESTONE POTENZA'S after your old ones wore out quickly because of your shitty alignment.
You're a cool guy and you're a good friend of mine, I'm just a little fed up.
klutchDb7
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You are making accusations and comments that are 100% taken out of context and unbased. I segmented your post to make it easier for people to read as well as connect what accusations and phrases I was referring to.
1) I'm low because I am enjoying the car I have poured my heart and soul into for 4 years. I like function AND form, and I have wanted a very low car of years, and now is my chance. Proceed to get shat on in corners? I fail to see the logic to that statement. If you are talking about touge, you are way out of line. I'm sorry I'm slower than you going UPHILL on a road I have never even seen and am not yet confident driving on, paired with the fact I have gear ratios that are absolute garbage particularly for a run like that, making it near impossible for me to gain any kind of speed and causing me to fall behind.
In terms of alignment, I actually did get an alignment when I first got the new suspension, get your facts straight before you come at me champ. Granted it was a garbage alignment, a situation which I handled when I realized what was happening. I had every reason to be upset, I had to pay MY OWN MONEY to replace those tires.
2) You are your own individual, I could care less what you do to your car, just because you do things means I have to like it? I'm entitled to my own opinion, which I am not afraid to make known, you're gonna have to get used to that.
3) I will sell my hood if I want, that is not your decision to make. My buyer wants my car AS IS, why would I change it, particularly when I am being offered near full asking price?
4) If I am wrong, I will admit it but I expect facts and reason shown to me to prove me otherwise. Until that point, my opinion stands.
5) Rarely install my own parts on my own car? Are you serious right now? There are a handful of parts I have not installed because I lacked the tools or talent/knowledge to do so, and instead of hacking it up, took it to a professional to have it done properly and help as I can. That's why my car, unlike many other Hondas out there, is not falling apart. And now I'm going to straighten you out. I change my own freaking oil, I however cannot get my fat ass under my car to do so in my driveway, so Allen kindly lets me use his shop. And he wasn't there holding my hand when I did my valve cover gasket or oil pan gasket, again, I had neither the tools nor proper place to do so, don't get all high and mighty with me, I do my own work.
6) And what the f*** are you talking about? I paid for my own freaking tires out of my own pocket money that I worked my ass of for.
Overall, I am extremely disappointed you would even say any of this. Everything I do is for a reason, like asking for a place that I can change my oil without ruining my back that I have issues with. Now you look like you just made up a bunch of crap to make me look bad. I love ya kid, but next time you're gonna make assumptions or accusations, how bout you make sure you have the right story.
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DeAngebro
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1. You being that low on coilovers that aren't meant to go that low is just stupid. And like I said, very form>function of you. Since your car is that low, when it's not suppose to be, you loose suspension travel because of your upper control arms smashing. Because your car is not getting full suspension travel, you're 'amazing' suspension would easily get shit on in any corner. Even my car would eat yours in the corners. You're 'alignment' was an eyeball alignment from Alan, it was meant to be good enough to get you to a place with an alignment rack. I also really really doubt you had the money to replace those tires when didn't even have the money to buy those side skirts you wanted a couple weeks prior.
2. Anything that's not cookie cutter is gay or ricey according to you. You have your own opinion on things, so don't bash on mine.
3. Anybody planning on buying the car would have wanted the hood even if it was just to sell it. Why would you do that when you know that I've been begging you for that hood since the day I bought my car? Because of money? I'm sure 99% of people would have been perfectly happy with buying the car without the carbon fiber hood so why couldn't you just sell it to me and make me happy? I don't get it.
5. Then why wouldn't you change the oil on the 4runner? That thing is two feet off the ground and you could easily fit under it. If Dan and I can get his car up on jack stands in less that five minutes, I'm sure your car wouldn't take more than two. You need 'special tools' to change a valve cover gasket? You have to be kidding me. All you need is a 10mm wrench. That could have easily been done on your driveway. When I ask you how you installed something on your car your usual response is, oh my tuner installed that or oh Alan installed that.
Please stop accusing me of making stuff up when I have obvious reason to assume/confirm things.
klutchDb7
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1) No shat I lose suspension travel, but seeing as I am not tracking it I could care less. I am enjoying my car while i still have it and what I do is none of your concern. Come at me on any real corner, I will still destroy you. you were not there when I had a conversation with him about my alignment, so stop putting words in his mouth. He said it was good to go, so I took his word for it. And go ahead and check my banking statement if you must. I got paid a couple of days before. I have my priorities, and those side skirts didn't exactly top my list
2) You're gonna hear my opinions no matter what, get used to it. You forget I'm the kid who put a checkerboard hood on his Honda because I wanted to, so obviously I have no issue with going outside the lines. I have never once insulted your choices directly, I have just voiced the fact it is not something I would do personally.
3) Because my buyer has specifically requested I keep the car as is. Again, it IS a selling point whether you want it to be or not. Again, it is my choice what happens with my stuff.
5) Because I didn't care to, it was raining that day and my dad asked me to take it to a shop to do so. Is it because I don't know how or am just too stuck up to? No, but I did what my dad asked me to. Have you considered maybe I just didn't want to? I am well aware as to how easy it is to get Dan's car up on jack stands. Valve cover gaskets require a sealant which I did not have access to and wasn't going to pay Honda $25 for a little 6oz tube or whatever ridiculous size it was. And oh really? How bout you try and ask again, because the only things I have not installed were items that involved wiring into my ecu, welding, timing, or fuel and ignition. You are sorely mistaken once again, every other item has been installed by my hands and with the assistance of others to move the process along.
Is there anything else you would like to discuss having to do with situations you were not even involved? A majority of your accusations has been related to times and situations you were neither there for nor included in. Just a tip; don't talk about thing you have no understanding of or knowledge on, kinda makes it hard for you to win an argument...
I am off to bed now
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DeAngebro
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1. There were plenty of 'real turns' when we went up to touge and you fell way behind. Don't come back saying that you didn't know the mountain because any real driver would have stayed close behind Dan or I to have the ability to predict the turns. And don't say that you didn't want Dan to be blinded with your high beams because you wouldn't need your high beams on if you were in the back, or how you say that you could destroy Dan ad I through the turns but in reality you're more concerned about pot holes and dips in the road, when you're your not that low only your mud flaps are scraping.
2. It seems that everybody hears your opinion and it's mostly the negative side. I've seen you bash on other peoples opinions when you could quietly keep to your self and just them their opinions be or even humor them, giving ClubIntegra a bad name.
3. You couldn't just make a bro happy?
5. Dan's car is lower than yours, has lower rails, and no parking brake, making it more difficult to get onto jack stands, and he and I got it onto jack stands within five minutes, yours would most likely be a lot easier. The sealant for gaskets is just rvt, easily found at any automotive store. Didn't you pay somebody to swap out your struts? Didn't you pay somebody to rewire you speaker system after your 'amazing wiring' shit out?
phenom3030
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Obd1 or obd2 radiator...?
Wow. I've never heard that one before.
Wow. I've never heard that one before.
DeAngebro
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Lol. Seriously.
phenom3030
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Reminded me of those Amber Bock commercials; "Rich... But not smooth..."
tbrazzy-s3
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:wtf:
I thought you two was friendz.
I thought you two was friendz.
klutchDb7
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1) You are dense, again, I'm not gonna go balls out on a freaking canyon road I've never been on, and even if I wanted to keep up I couldn't because of my garbage transmission, who the hell are you to tell me how fast I should drive? I will drive to my comfort level. And NOT ONCE have I EVER said I could beat Dan at anything, his car is superior to mine in every way which is a fact I have accepted for a long time now. You are just straight up making things up at this point.
2)I'm sorry you all feel that way, not my problem though, I'll give my opinion as I see fit and until such a time I am no longer legally allowed to. Giving ClubIntegra a bad name... yes, that's what I do on a daily basis by trying to help people as I can and straightening out those who are out of line.
3) Sorry, but every once in a while I have to do something for myself.
5) a) You are beating a dead horse. I know what it takes to get his car on jack stands. But seeing as I don't even own jack stands I fail to see any relevance to your comment, why are you even still talking about this? I will change my freaking oil however and wherever the hell I want to. Again, you arent in charge about how I got about my own business.
b) Cool story
c) No, I paid for him to let me use his lift, his tools and his assistance. Do you think I just stood there and let him do everything? No, I was right there putting my own shit in
d) No, I paid CarToys to replace my amp and reground it because my original grounding point arced out, something I have no control over and handled accordingly. When did I ever call it "amazing wiring"? Oh wait, never. More words put in my mouth
Stop making crap up. I do what I do because it is how I am comfortable doing it. Go ahead and keep making things up about how I go about MY OWN business, particularly when you have absolutely no idea what the hell you are talking about because YOU WERE NOT THERE AND HAD NO PART IN A SINGLE ONE OF THESE CASES.
klutchDb7
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He's pissy, we're talking it out haha. Which is funny because 95% of everything he's yelling about he a) had no part in and/or does not fully understand the situation or b) was just completely made up and never happened in the first place :what: