Best Motor for Forced Induction

Death-the-Kid

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Prozon said:
In all seriousness, an LS/V is just a half assed motor. You're better off running a GSR crank and rods than to run LS ones.

If your LS/V is better because it's modified or boosted- well then modify or boost a GSR.

That's like saying "My LS motor makes more power then an ITR motor."
Well the LS motor is built and sleeved on 20psi, but it makes more power than the stock ITR motor!!!"

Haha. Details kids, details.
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Huh? my ls motor has a modified head with less compression than a gsr. The bottom end is stock save for head studs and rod bolts. it's by no means built and spins to 9k rpm's all day long. No forced induction. Please explain to us how its a half-assed motor? Why would you run gsr rods and crank when you would make less tq LOL. You do realize there is no logic to your statement? getting your power sooner with more linear tq is always a bad thing right? that means i move mass more easily and spool turbos more quickly. and yes i've had two gsr's, a stock ls, and now an ls/vtec with a gsr head. you read too many magazines. a gsr with the same mods i have will make less hp and tq than me if both boosted with the same turbo

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Integraguy04

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Death-the-Kid said:
why not? b20vtec sucks too man. what could be more half-assed than building a motor properly?
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Define "built properly"? I still don't see how u can label a ls/vtec a half assed build?

What qualifies it as that?


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Death-the-Kid

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Integraguy04 said:
Define "built properly"? I still don't see how u can label a ls/vtec a half assed build?

What qualifies it as that?


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i was being sarcastic and agreeing with you.... i have an lsvtec...


built properly means taking the time to find the parts and get them to run as reliably as possible for your desired goal. i do not believe an lsvtec is half-assed if it is done correctly. weakest point being the rod bolts.
 

Integraguy04

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Death-the-Kid said:
i was being sarcastic and agreeing with you.... i have an lsvtec...


built properly means taking the time to find the parts and get them to run as reliably as possible for your desired goal. i do not believe an lsvtec is half-assed if it is done correctly. weakest point being the rod bolts.
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Woooooww I totally took that seriously lol haha

Joke is on me...I thought u had one too I was so confused


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Death-the-Kid

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LOL yeah

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Prozon

Kris
Death-the-Kid said:
Huh? my ls motor has a modified head with less compression than a gsr. The bottom end is stock save for head studs and rod bolts. it's by no means built and spins to 9k rpm's all day long. No forced induction. Please explain to us how its a half-assed motor? Why would you run gsr rods and crank when you would make less tq LOL. You do realize there is no logic to your statement? getting your power sooner with more linear tq is always a bad thing right? that means i move mass more easily and spool turbos more quickly. and yes i've had two gsr's, a stock ls, and now an ls/vtec with a gsr head. you read too many magazines. a gsr with the same mods i have will make less hp and tq than me if both boosted with the same turbo

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No magazines here bud.

Where are you getting the idea that:
1.) You make more torque than a GSR motor.
2.) You make more power than a GSR motor.

Stock LS/V with a GSR head? I doubt you're making more than a GSR with a lower compression head. Show me the dyno sheets, i'm just skeptical. Last I checked GSR motors made more power and torque than LS motors..I'm also a little curious of your method lowered the compression on the head itself..

The only time I ever see LS/V's built is when people have an LS motor and are too cheap to buy a GSR bottom end. OR, they have all the parts in their garage. I see no benefits to building an LS/V rather than them being cheaper then a full GSR/Type R motor.

AlexD said:
LOL making more power than an ITR... if that makes oyu happy
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Hahah, I missed that little tidbit. Somehow his motor is making more power than an ITR.. with lower compression... running an LS bottom end, unboosted.

I would love to see the dyno sheet on this magic motor! Hell, if I can make more power than an ITR just by slapping a GSR head on an LS block.. I don't know why everybody doesn't do this.. it's genius!!
 
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Death-the-Kid

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Prozon said:
No magazines here bud.

Where are you getting the idea that:
1.) You make more torque than a GSR motor.
2.) You make more power than a GSR motor.

Stock LS/V with a milled head? I doubt you're making more than a GSR with a lower compression head. Show me the dyno sheets, i'm just skeptical. Last I checked GSR motors made more power and torque than LS motors..

The only time I ever see LS/V's built is when people have an LS motor and are too cheap to buy a GSR bottom end. OR, they have all the parts in their garage. I see no benefits to building an LS/V rather than them being cheaper then a full GSR/Type R motor.


Hahah, I missed that little tidbit. Somehow his motor is making more power than an ITR.. with lower compression... running an LS bottom end, unboosted.

I would love to see the dyno sheet on this magic motor! Hell, if I can make more power than an ITR just by slapping a GSR head on an LS block.. I don't know why everybody doesn't do this.. it's genius!!
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Learn to read. I said head was the only thing with work..



Want the video too?

Stock ls bottom end, gsr head with Cams. Under 10:1cr even compression tested the motor 1.5 weeks ago

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Prozon

Kris
I wasn't done editing that post! I didn't mean to say milled head- that would raise your compression.

You notice you only make power up high past 6,000 rpm's? Lets try revving an ITR to 9k and see what's making more power, haha.
 

Prozon

Kris
Why did you tell me to read? I never said anything about the rest of the motor having work. Even so- you said you have arp rod bolts, that counts as work anyways, genius.
 

Death-the-Kid

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Prozon said:
I wasn't done editing that post! I didn't mean to say milled head- that would raise your compression.

You notice you only make power up high past 6,000 rpm's? Lets try revving an ITR to 9k and see what's making more power, haha.
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Because I'm under 10:1 CR you noob. I'm overcammed. I'd make more power with smaller Cams. And look at my tq curve. Do you not know how to read a dyno plot? And look my redline is at 8,400 right where a stock itr is. More power across the board with lower compression.

Its no longer at 9300 because my compression isn't high enough for the Cams I have. I was originally gonna go.all.motor and higher compression was next ob my list. I've had 2 b18c1's before this.

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Death-the-Kid

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LOL rod bolds do not count towards power. You really don't understand how engines work do you? They are safety precaution for high revs. Like I said before I will outspool a Turbo and have more power under the curve.

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Prozon

Kris
Death-the-Kid said:
LOL rod bolds do not count towards power. You really don't understand how engines work do you? They are safety precaution for high revs. Like I said before I will outspool a Turbo and have more power under the curve.

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Learn to read, I never said one word about rod bolts
Making power. You need to stop making random assumptions. This would be the second time you've assumed something I said, or completely came up with something out of thin air- in what? Ten minutes?

I'm not sure what you mean by "outspool a turbo." mind elaborating?

And what does being under 10:1 do for you? You're only making power because of your high revving- and if you compare a higher compression motor to yours I will bet the torque curve would be a lot cleaner.
 
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