Interesting idea but want opinions

[Deff Baztard]

Alright ladies and gents, I was just thinking about ways to improve the HP and what not on my integra.

Well I thought of doing what I done to my older toyota pickup (1982) with the 22RE engine block, and the 22R headers for lower compression among other things for better performance off road. I no long er have the pickup, flipped it and was destroyed beyond repairs sadly.
ANYHOW my idea but wanted to talk to you guys before I even tempt to do it.


I read about people taking turbos off of other makes such as the Nissan Z cars, and fitting it in the car, also read if you find a lower set of gears for the tranny, it improves the take off but loses top speed.
I thought of swamping parts such as the turbo and throttle body from the Z, maybe swamping gears from the Z as well or maybe fitting either american muscle car or a good fast import car...same with the values and camshafts, maybe the headers and pistons....basically do a whole swamp into one Frankenstein engine and trans....probably would scare lots of people but if it can be done then why not do it?
Frankly, I'd like to keep the parts within the Honda and stay away from other companies so that way I can have an actual Honda frankenstin motor.....
What is your guys thoughts on this?
I want to hear what you guys done to your cars in terms of swamping parts for HP and performance..
also advices on what I should and shouldnt do or think of.

Will put a list of things I thought of swamping:
Intake system: Turbo set up from Nassin Z, or Mitsubishi, maybe a newer Honda CR
Engine parts: either one of the Nassin sports or Honda sports
Exhaust, just replace the ports with smoother and smaller flaps, or a turbo exhaust system
Gears/Trans: I orginally thought of Camaro gears, but they might be too big, but thought f the Z or a newer honda gears....
For driveshafts and what not, Not too sure what I want to do there but might just leave stock or replace with replacements to match the "new" parts from the swamps.

Any suggestions?

What I have done was removed the sideskirts, hate scrapping the bottom from the speedbumps, thinking of removing the rear bumper and redirecting the muffler to run under the bumper bar(cherry bomb glasspack)
Upgraded my air intake with older coldintake system.
Not looking to rice the car, altho bought it from a buddy who had it half riced up...

 

[covert_Con]

If you have the money and the time, swap an LS1 into the teg.

200ish hp stock, and you can just imagine peoples faces when they hear that roar and turn around and see a little honda.

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Umm, what the hell did the OP just subject me to reading? I have no clue what the fuck you're wanting to do or even talking about lol. Someting about Toyota sr22, mixed with 300zx pats and american muscle?

 

[Deff Baztard]

If you have the money and the time, swap an LS1 into the teg.

200ish hp stock, and you can just imagine peoples faces when they hear that roar and turn around and see a little honda.

Eh? that sounds like it would be fun, and just smile when sitting at the lights. wouldnt the LS1 be too big for the engine bay, thats where I'm coming from with the frankenstein project, if it can be mounted on the b18a1 engine, and fit under the hood with no major mods, such as cutting parts of the bay out...if I was going to have to cut or mod the bay out then I may as well just find a 6 cyl IROC frame with motor and trans and swamp the body.

Umm, what the hell did the OP just subject me to reading? I have no clue what the f*** you're wanting to do or even talking about lol. Someting about Toyota sr22, mixed with 300zx pats and american muscle?

Sorry, should;ve been clear, I got the idea of swamping parts from my past project which was for offroad, I took a toyota engine from different years (early 80's) and blended them together for lower compression and better output...
I started thinking and I was wondering if I could do a similar thing with honda but then heard of people using turbo systems from the Z or mitsubshi
and also with people taking gears or gearboxes from other cars and fitting it in their trannys, like lower gears or higher gears but for tegs, its a lower gear from some honda car, civic i believe but the only con is it has a lower top speed, but quicker on takeoffs.
what I'm trying to get at here is just have an awesome set up without having to go to the BIG NAME BRANDS for performance parts if I could just tink around and put it all together....if that makes more sense?

 

[tilegend]

sounds like you like the nissan z... at this point i would just get a nissan z...

i second the fact i have no clue what you're talking about...
you said you wanted a frankenstein motor with all these nissan z and and american muscle car parts but keep it honda?

honestly with all this talk about swapping parts from other cars its just going to cost you more in the long run... the modifications that would be necessary it just isnt worth it.

now staying across the same platform a lot of things do interchange between different chassis for integras and possibly civics also, it all depends on what parts you're talking about... im not really going to go much further into it because you can do more research on these things...

otherwise if you have the time and money feel free to do whatever it is you like, more power to you if you can create something new

 

[covert_Con]

Eh? that sounds like it would be fun, and just smile when sitting at the lights. wouldnt the LS1 be too big for the engine bay, thats where I'm coming from with the frankenstein project, if it can be mounted on the b18a1 engine, and fit under the hood with no major mods, such as cutting parts of the bay out...if I was going to have to cut or mod the bay out then I may as well just find a 6 cyl IROC frame with motor and trans and swamp the body.

I've seen these engines swapped into rx7s, they are beast. It's gonna be a fraken car no matter what on the route your going on if I'm understanding you correctly.

You haven't stated your budget yet so there is plenty of mods you can do if you have both the time and money.

Please for the love of god be more specific. Idk what car you have, I'm assuming a g2 because it's in the g2 section.

 

[Rich-PMS]

You cant swap gears from a RWD trans to a FWD trans.


You have a LOT of research to do dude.

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

^^ What he said, plus people use the eclipse stuff on D series manily as you can use an factory Honda CRX HF or Civic CX exhaust manifold with an adaptor plate to run the stock DSM turbos. People do use the DSM 450cc injectors if they are on a budget. The side mount manifold that came on those cars wouldnt be real ideal for a honda as your limited with room and would need piping bent to fit ect...best bet if your on a budget and this is yoru first time boosting a honda would be just buy an ebay kit and call it a day. You'll have about the same reliability with one of those as you would a stock eclipse turbo that has 100+k miles on it

 

[Deff Baztard]

sounds like you like the nissan z... at this point i would just get a nissan z...

i second the fact i have no clue what you're talking about...
you said you wanted a frankenstein motor with all these nissan z and and american muscle car parts but keep it honda?

honestly with all this talk about swapping parts from other cars its just going to cost you more in the long run... the modifications that would be necessary it just isnt worth it.

now staying across the same platform a lot of things do interchange between different chassis for integras and possibly civics also, it all depends on what parts you're talking about... im not really going to go much further into it because you can do more research on these things...

otherwise if you have the time and money feel free to do whatever it is you like, more power to you if you can create something new

I really gotta work on my grammar here. I done some research on people who swamped out stuff to improve the HP and what not from Nassins and mitsubshis but what I meant was keep it honda was if there was such cars out there that matched the HP of these cars made by honda, like the CRX but those cars are hard to find around my area unless I go somewhere far. The nassin z are around but either being kept or parted out, no one sells them and frankly I like the teg, it suits my personally if that makes sense? I realize the budget can get real costly, but thats the beauty of scrapyards.
As for the create something new, thats why I posted this fourm is to see what I can do and cant do like Rich-PMS said, cant put RWD gears in FWD, I was not aware of that so that scratches the Camaro gears off the list...I just mentioned the american cars for their HP.

I've seen these engines swapped into rx7s, they are beast. It's gonna be a fraken car no matter what on the route your going on if I'm understanding you correctly.

You haven't stated your budget yet so there is plenty of mods you can do if you have both the time and money.

Please for the love of god be more specific. Idk what car you have, I'm assuming a g2 because it's in the g2 section.

You're kinda catching on what I'm talking about. I have time, but budget can be worked out, I can basically get parts for next to nothing but motors would have to pay a bit for a complete set but I'd like to create something that has more power and "a one of a kind"
I thought you had an Idea of my car, I mean we're on friendlists lol. Nah, should be more specific, but I just wanted to hear what people had to say or ideas to see if I can blend them together and work it out. I drive a 90's GS coupe.

You cant swap gears from a RWD trans to a FWD trans.


You have a LOT of research to do dude.

I know that now....This is PART of my research dude, why do you think I posted this? Ask questions and get answers, keep those answers in mind and also look around and find out more about those answers...if that made sense?
As an example, G.F.N. said this....

^^ What he said, plus people use the eclipse stuff on D series manily as you can use an factory Honda CRX HF or Civic CX exhaust manifold with an adaptor plate to run the stock DSM turbos. People do use the DSM 450cc injectors if they are on a budget. The side mount manifold that came on those cars wouldnt be real ideal for a honda as your limited with room and would need piping bent to fit ect...best bet if your on a budget and this is yoru first time boosting a honda would be just buy an ebay kit and call it a day. You'll have about the same reliability with one of those as you would a stock eclipse turbo that has 100+k miles on it

Now I'd be taking this information, then research the differences and how I'd be able to do it within my budget, and debate on either a kit would be better than using CRX or CX E.M and run the turbo...now I was not aware of DSM 450cc injectors and now I'm going to do research at the meanwhile I may ask him about what the DSM 450cc injector benefits is compared to turbo system....besides the space and the custom pipes.
I'm not trying to come across cocky or anything but aint this the reason why people join fourms and create posts so they can research and talk it over with people who either have an idea what would/wouldnt work or has done it before?

 

[Deff Baztard]

ok now I did some research on the DSM Injectors and it said most ppl use them with turbo only, and from what I thought he was saying is that i could've use the injector instead of the complete turbo.
Yeah its my first time boosting a teg/car in general. I'm used to working on motorcycles as before I got my license, i drove dirtbikes all over the place and worked on them...so I do have the mechanical ablilties but know that cars and bikes are two completely different things. both have a motor and frame and wiring harness but cars theres more things to do than bikes and certain things that can and cant be done.
Like I've mixed different bike parts together and rode them, also blown them which made me realize oh I cant do this with that ...and to save the trouble with the car, since it more cash out of my pockets than poking around for bike parts in the backyard, I'm asking you guys for your ideas and what you know.
If that makes sense?

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

Just do a bunch of researching man, google will be your friend as will Honda-Tech

 

[Merlins Beard]

If you really want something different, with a lot of power, look into a J32A2 (3.2L V6 from TL Type S)swap. People have done it before and they are wicked torque monsters. Only problem is that the hood can't close so you would either need a bulge hood or cut a hole in the stock hood.

 

[Deff Baztard]

If you really want something different, with a lot of power, look into a J32A2 (3.2L V6 from TL Type S)swap. People have done it before and they are wicked torque monsters. Only problem is that the hood can't close so you would either need a bulge hood or cut a hole in the stock hood.

H O L Y S H IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT!
Well that's kinda the idea I want....but keep it 4 cyl. That is impressive tho. just speachless...

 

[Deff Baztard]

Think I'd be able to use the systems or core engine parts from j32a2 into the b18a1?

 

[DaddyBuiltRacing]

No man, nothing from the v6 will work on your b18. You need to do a ton of researching, I honestly think you are way in over your head with ideas. Learn the basics about the honda cars/engines and then go from there.