down shifting

[alcoholic]

when down shifting do you really have to which one is the "rite" way of doing it and why?[color])

 

[slikk]

can you drive a stick ???

clutch in
rev rev
gear down
clutch out
rev harder
= busted car

clutch in
no rev
gear down
no rev
= nice compression awaiting the rev to rocket off

 

[alcoholic]

Originally posted by "slikk"

can you drive a stick ???

clutch in
rev rev
gear down
clutch out
rev harder
= busted car

clutch in
no rev
gear down
no rev
= nice compression awaiting the rev to rocket off

btw i can drive a manual car.
have you heard of the term "heel toe"??

so when you down shift to lower gear you just do the above?
you don't use the heel toe/rev matching?

according to this link http://www.nasaproracing.com/hpde/heelandtoe.html
its helpful to do it. but my main question really was why do we have to let go of the clutch and have the gear on neutral while rev matching instead of just leaving it down and have it on gear already while rev matching?

 

[slikk]

ok i am a noob ...

i mis understood you i guess..

i doin tknow than .. when i an downshifting for cornering i usally brake enough to lower the rev for the lower gear before i start getting into the turn then i swiitch gear not letting off the cluch fully when done (= smoky clutch i kno) and just giving it enough revaround the corner to almost break traction. once out of the turn i release the clutch and floor it.

on the straight away i am just a regular rice.. up your ass then hard breaking .. no just playing.


i actually let compression do a lot of my breaking.. jus gear down and let the car bow (watching the rpm carefully).. with my foot slightly on the gas waiting for the moment


i kno my ride will redline in:
1st @ 25mph
2nd @ 55mph
3rd @ 80mph
4th @ ??
5th @ ??

so i know how low i can shift down and let compression take over

 

[alcoholic]

thats cool
sorry if i wasn't clear b4.

well back to the question. does it matter whether or not i hold on the clutch while down shifting? (i know the proper way, its just i wanna know why we have to do it that way seems like its pretty much the same in a sence)

 

[kcyrusm]

If i understand correctly, you are asking why you put it in neutral to rev then downshift right? (double clutching) I've heard many things refered to as double clutching but from research i've concluded that it is when you press in clutch, then put in neutral, release clutch, press clutch again and THEN go into gear... My dad explained to me why people used to do this, and why you don't need to do it anymore. (i don't remember though, so i'll half-ass. It has something to do with timing... cars back in the day needed to be double clutched but its not necessary anymore. It's 2:00 am and im tired, so if i misunderstood and am just babbling, please IGNORE. OH, and when i downshift for a corner, i usually just press in clutch change to desired gear, rev then release clutch so i don't lose speed (reving in desired gear with cluth pressed). I do this to AVOID engine breaking. This i why i can't drive an automatic... how could i ever have so much fun in little curvy roads if i can't downshift and hit the curves at those speeds? and with the teg's handling, its just too sexy too miss out with an automatic trans.

 

[ajax]

for me i push in the clutch rev match then shift from 3rd to 2nd then i take out the cltuch but sometimes i rev it twice to have a better match

 

[CHILD]

you dont need the heel and toe method unless you're drifting....i doubt your drifiting in your FF anyway.

the heel and toe is used to keep your car in the higher RPM's for corner exits because without the RPM's and power you wont be able to complete the drift. other than that....just downshift normally....clutch, down gear, release clutch, lead foot.

 

[acurals209]

you dont need the heel and toe method unless you're drifting....i doubt your drifiting in your FF anyway.

the heel and toe is used to keep your car in the higher RPM's for corner exits because without the RPM's and power you wont be able to complete the drift. other than that....just downshift normally....clutch, down gear, release clutch, lead foot.

HEY CHILD WHAT UP WELL AS YOU KNOW WHEN WE GET INTO DEBATES ABOUT PERFORMANCE WE USUALLY GO BACK AND FORTH BUT I HAVE TO AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS ONE I AGREE 100%

 

[kcyrusm]

for me i push in the clutch rev match then shift from 3rd to 2nd then i take out the cltuch but sometimes i rev it twice to have a better match

Does it matter if push in clutch, change gear, then rev match and release clutch?

 

[Ominous G2]

That might take longer, but it would work. Once you get used to it you can push in clutch, rev match while shifting then let out clutch.

 

[ajax]

alrite this what your suppose to do is bleep the throttle then shift cuz your makin it slower to shift

ex:
your in 3rd goin into 2nd: push in the clutch and rev (but still in 3rd) then ur RPMs go up and as you are still pushin in the clutch shift to 2nd and release the clutch

 

[reconxtru]

alrite this what your suppose to do is bleep the throttle then shift cuz your makin it slower to shift

ex:
your in 3rd goin into 2nd: push in the clutch and rev (but still in 3rd) then ur RPMs go up and as you are still pushin in the clutch shift to 2nd and release the clutch

shift to 2nd and release the clutch? no need to gas it?

 

[GSROWNSU]

i don't really downshift much to be honest w/ u guys....very rarely do i downshift as i'm coming to a stop....o well

 

[ltrain]

I Down Shift Alot More Then I Used To Besides Its Less Wear On The Brakes