Apex Integration doesn't make cheap crappy stuff. They are on the same level as Blitz, Greddy etc. Everyone has there preferences but its not like some ss autochrome or megan or some other knock off bullshit. they research and develop their products quite well. And for the record, Blitz doesn't make their own turbos either. they use german KKK turbos, Apexi uses IHI, Greddy uses Mitsubishi, and HKS uses Garrett